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littlewolf Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-10 09:47 PM
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Remind me why the Democratic party did not pass a budget this year ...
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/budget/135451-budget-skirmish-starts-over-ryan-rule

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The proposed rule would allow the Budget Committee chairman to set spending ceilings for 2011 without a vote by the full House. By approving the rules package, the House would give authority to the new Budget panel chairman to set budget ceilings at a later time and his decision would not be subject to an up-or-down vote on the floor.

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In practice, this would give power to Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), the incoming chairman of the panel, to impose deep spending cuts since spending bills cannot exceed the budget ceiling for the 2011 fiscal year.

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Republicans argue allowing the Budget chairman to set spending ceilings is necessary because of the failure of the last Congress to approve a budget last year.
“This provision is only necessary because of Democrats’ historic failure to pass a budget last year. They have nothing but their own ineptitude to blame for this temporary authority,” Brendan Buck, a spokesman for the House Republican transition, said in response to the Van Hollen statement.

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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-10 09:51 PM
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1. Why do they need to?
The Bernank is doing all the spending anyway, and he doesn't need any silly vote to do it.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-10 09:54 PM
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2. Great comment.
Edited on Fri Dec-31-10 10:05 PM by RandomThoughts
Temporary authority. The reason they filibusterer is they think that the things trying to get something done are going to stop, or move on to something else.

They are trying to wait out better, in a world that does get better.

Really interesting concept.

Of coarse it is either a game of chicken or a dance marathon depending how you see it.

And since they have luxury in life, they think they will hold out longer then those having hardship created by them.


They are fighting class warfare as a dance marathon while trying to shot peoples legs.


All so they can live in anarchy. Side note, I am not saying the budget was good, so not talking about Republicans specifically, but the groupings of people with capability to correct things that do not, or the filters that keep them from seeing it.


Let me help them out, the side that has no luxury, has nothing to lose, so you can't wait them out. And as they create more hardship, they create more people they have to try and hurt or break.

It is so obvious.


They may be going on cyclical astrology also, if they think that is how it works, they may be trying to weather a storm they think will turn before correcting what needs correcting.


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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-11 12:10 AM
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4. I agree...
When you say:

"They are trying to wait out better, in a world that does get better."

And:

"They may be going on cyclical astrology also, if they think that is how it works, they may be trying to weather a storm they think will turn before correcting what needs correcting."

The year of the metal tiger doesn't end tonight, either.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-11 01:39 AM
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5. I was going to disregard the tiger comment.
Edited on Sat Jan-01-11 01:41 AM by RandomThoughts
but looked it up. I don't believe in being pigeonholed under some concept like that, and figure will be the best, and sometimes worst of all of them.

Not going to let some arbitrary thing like that make an effect.

Also, it ignores 'move within your myth' Many times situations try to paint your direction, you have to move within a myth construction when you see it.

And anything like astrology can do that if you start to follow it.


I do know some people believe in stuff like that. Not really my pick of things to think on, seems limiting.

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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-11 01:38 PM
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6. I'm not limited or buying into it. You mentioned cyclical astrology. I added to it. Okay?
Edited on Sat Jan-01-11 01:42 PM by freshwest
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-11 03:50 PM
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8. Was not specifically talking about you.
Edited on Sat Jan-01-11 03:50 PM by RandomThoughts
I was only talking about a forced limitation within that doctrine, and how it can set a myth about a person.

If you begin to think you are part of some 'grouping' by some astrology, or other grouping, then that can be used to move you in a direction or say you don't or can't have some other learnable virtue or even problem from some other description.

Not saying you do that, just saying that to use a correlation in an astrology to define yourself, you limit yourself to what someone else would say that grouping is about.

Part of moving within your myth is not letting some 'grouping' define a limitation for you. Since any group can do that, and it is a way to get you under some other set of conditions.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-11 04:13 PM
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9. Have a good weekend.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-10 11:15 PM
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3. Harry Reid Had to Run Against a Teabagger
and for a while, it looked like he was losing.
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sweetapogee Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-11 03:01 PM
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7. it was
Edited on Sat Jan-01-11 03:02 PM by sweetapogee
the house that didn't make a budget as they were supposed to do. Reid is in the senate.

fyi
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