Check in if you could give two flying fucks about how the stock market is doing.

[Paradoxical]

[madokie]

1. Personally I could care less but a lot hinges on what it does.

I didn't vote though :-)

[riverbendviewgal]

2. I watch it

to know when to take my money out of the banks...I already took my money out of stocks 4 years ago...You see I knew the stock market and banks were going downhill...I listened to the warnings and don't believe the crap words that "they" didn't know...THEY KNEW.

[Bucky]

47. So did you check in that you COULD give a fuck or that you DO give a fuck?

Which is it? Pick a side, dagnabbit!

[Warpy]

3. I'm living off the income from the market but rather than the numbers

at the end of the day that affect my net worth, I'm much more concerned by how corporations are hoarding cash rather than paying the dividends they're supposed to be paying and stiffing their workers in the process.

However, proxy votes have started to get very, very interesting. If anyone else out there is getting them, I suggest you read them and vote FOR anything the BOD suggests you vote against. There's some pretty progressive stuff on there and I surmise the actual meetings have been getting more interesting than the plutocracy would like them to be.

[crazylikafox]

7. I'm in the same boat as you, so I pay attention. But I usually just dump those proxy votes

in the trash. I definitely know that I shouldn't assign my vote back to the company, which they always ask for. And I normally don't like to vote on something when I'm not familiar with the issues. But just voting against the BOD recommends.... I like that idea. I think I'll try it!!! Thanks for the idea!

[Warpy]

16. Take a look at them. There's a lot of environmental stuff on them

along with the bare beginnings of trying to rein in executive pay. If you dump them, the BOD just takes it as voting the way they want you to.

Better fish them out of the trash.

[Ignis]

4. You do realize that many DUers are stockholders, right?

Stocks aren't simply the plaything of the fabulously wealthy. Many Americans own stocks obtained through ESPPs, ISOs, RSUs, etc.

[Common Sense Party]

5. I care, because that's my retirement as well as my livelihood.

But the daily ebb and flow of the market means very, very little to me as a long-term investor.

[Bucky]

48. So you would describe yourself as a fuck giver in this survey?

But did you check in that you COULD give a fuck or that you DO give a fuck? Those were your options.

[bluerum]

6. Luckily (I think) I have been emloyed by companies that provide a 401k plan.

So, for better or worse I am invested.

And after the 2007/2008/2009 you can bet your sweet honey rolls I am watching.

[bobbolink]

8. Sorry, I don't even have ONE flying fuck to spare.

Its all about manipulators.

[Bucky]

49. If I had a spare fuck, I would share it with you, Bobbolink.

I'm all about the fuck giving.

[doc03]

9. Darn right I do, I rely on the market for a good part of my

retirement income. I don't really pay a lot of attention to the daily fluctuations.

[Brickbat]

10. Other: I object to the DJIA being trumpeted about as if it's some sort of reliable indicator for

what conditions are like "on Main Street," instead of treated as what it really is: a short-term thermometer reading that some use do decide whether to make short-term investment decisions.

[Common Sense Party]

12. It's not even a reliable indicator for "the stock market" as a whole.

The DJIA is only 30 stocks. There are thousands and thousands of publicly traded companies in the U.S., and many, many more worldwide.

[cbdo2007]

28. Right, the "DJIA" is a promotional tool so the news has something to report.

I work constantly with some other casual stock pickers and never have I ever once heard any of them refer to the Dow or the DJIA in our discussions.

We're interested in individual stocks or ETF's but the DJIA ETF's aren't the best performing ones out there, so that doesn't even give us cause to mention it. I've had plenty of days where the Dow is down 2% and I'll be up 5% or vice versa. To us traders it really isn't indicative of anything, just a bunch of stocks we don't own.

[ipaint]

11. I could give two flying fucks about the stock market.

All that return on investment and cushy retirement accounts come at the expense of the poor and working poor. Lousy fucking jobs with low pay and no benefits so the investor class can see adequate returns in order to maintain a comfortable or more lifestyle until death.

No universal health care because wall street would shit a brick and lose billions. War after war because wall street sees endless $$$ signs. Privatize the crap out of everything so investors can get a guaranteed return on the pillage and plunder of the public commons.

Can't go after criminal banksters who stole us blind because what wall street do??? OMG, they might lose money.

It's rotten to the core.

[inna]

17. what never ceases to amaze me is...

how we put up with this shit. it's as if people are sleepwalking or are on soma, or something. i really think that we are (one of) the most brainwashed/successfully propagandized nations in (recent) history.

[RegieRocker]

20. Something we can be proud of!

:sarcasm:

[Liberal_in_LA]

13. I care

[unkachuck]

14. 'checking in'

....me giving two flying fucks about the stock market is one flying fuck too many....the stock markets' importance is over-inflated and it's evil power is under-estimated....

[RebelOne]

15. Well, I do not care any longer.

When my company laid me off, I pulled my 401K and IRA and moved them into my savings, which I am glad I did because the stock market was tanking. When I was laid off, I was past retirement age anyway, but wanted to work a bit longer to get more money into my 401K. But now at least I am not losing money. Even though the savings is not building up too much interest, I have enough money there to not have to eat cat food for a few years.

[JoePhilly]

18. My 401k cares.

[RegieRocker]

19. F**k that rigged roulette table!

[CanonRay]

21. It no longer has any basis in reality

it's up because the Fed is pumping money in.

[Zywiec]

22. I guess it must be great being 21 years old

and being so smart...

[NeedleCast]

27. Best Post In Thread

[SidDithers]

42. +1...nt

Sid

[Selatius]

23. If the stock market does poorly, that means the rich people will become upset.

They will take out their anger by whipping on the working class. Sooner or later, the whippings become too much, and there will be a rebellion by the poor and landless.

[Better Believe It]

24. Anyone who has a 401K or other pension plan that has investment in stock market cares.

That's tens of millions of ordinary working people.

[cbdo2007]

25. Of course I give a fuck - I've got to feed my family and pay my mortgage.

Stocks aren't my only source of income but they definitely help pay the bills each month.

[bvar22]

26. Wall Street can Live or Die without our money or concern.

My Wife & I went On Strike in 2006.
We cashed out what little we had on Wall Street,
and used it to buy Bubble Proof land in the Rural South.
We live there now and produce a good percentage of our own food.

Next year,
we will CONSUME even less.

[Modern_Matthew]

29. Checking in. I'm much too poor to have any attachment to it. nt

[Marrah_G]

30. I don't pay attention to it

I have no money invested in it nor will I in the foreseeable future. If I did, I would probably pay attention to it.

[kenny blankenship]

31. All that funny money the Fed is cooking up is going RIGHT INTO the stock market

It doesn't pass "Go" but flies straight into the paper asset markets without first washing through the real economy. (Maybe someday a crumb will trickle down)

So if Mr. Market don't go up, then Ben is printing away like mad for no result at all. His scheme to refloat the busted banks will be a catastrophic failure in that case, sooner rather than later. So you bet I hope the stock market goes up. You bet I do. I wish there were responsible people in DC and NY to reform our system and put our economy on a sound footing again. But since there ISN'T ANY SUCH PERSON, I hope the criminal machinations of the Treasury and the Fed don't result in an immediate implosion. I am thus forced to hope they "get away with it". See, I have to live here for the foreseeable, and if I can't have a non-criminal government, I'd AT LEAST prefer to continue with something like my former standard of living for as long as possible, rather than have to fight you all for caches of canned beans and freeze-dried salisbury steaks.

[Zenlitened]

55. "I am thus forced to hope they "get away with it"."

Yup. Exactly. That is exactly the position us Main Street-ers are in at this point, because restoring the pre-Collapse illusion is the closest thing to A Plan that anyone in D.C. has bothered to come up with.

[cbdo2007]

32. Speaking of stock market - did anyone buy AGQ this week like I suggested??

hahaha, it's up 20% this week since my recommendation and should keep going up.

I told the guy last Friday that threw away $300 per year on the lottery to just buy one share of AGQ and he'd do much better.

[Fire Walk With Me]

33. Fuck Wall Street and "speculators". They and Bush caused the current crisis.

And GE just reported something like a 71% increase in profit, right after we learn that they're not paying taxes on it.

[raouldukelives]

34. Put your money where your mouth is is my motto

I could hardly rail against the abuses of corporations if I'm supporting them with my investments. I don't make much money being out of my works 401k program and I miss the match but I can at least sleep at night knowing I'm not helping the MIC or making a few cents whenever someone is denied health care.
If your not part of the solution, you might be part of the problem.

[Dappleganger]

35. My only regret is not having any fucks left to give.

[MrSlayer]

36. My annuity certainly gives a fuck.

After having lost a significant sum of money in the crash, it has rebounded nicely. I would be happier if it had just added to what I had in there before but apparently one can not have everything. I would like to get it all out of there to invest on my own but the penalties for doing so are ridiculous.

[Common Sense Party]

37. How old are you? What made you decide to go with an annuity? n/t

[SkyDaddy7]

38. I Thank Obama & the Democrats for saving the markets almost...

Everyday...Our (My Wife & I) retirement was nearly cut in half & now it is doing good! I do not see the hatred many here on DU have for the market doing good as many middle class families futures are tied to that...And right now that is all many people have!!

If you "don't give two flying fucks" then I honestly have no idea what to say to you.

[uppityperson]

39. What IS a flying fuck and would I have to do it twice?

[Wait Wut]

44. Mile high club.

Round trip.

:smoke:

What that has to do with the stock market...no clue. Unless you're investing in the porn industry. I hear it's doing poorly due to web cams and amateur video. My suggestion, pull out and reinvest.

[uppityperson]

50. Ah, thank you

Should have remembered from my skydiving days.

[Wait Wut]

53. ACK!!!

Are you INSANE?!!?

I love to fly. Never understood why people would want to leave the plane before it's back on earth. I visualize a trail of vomit landing on my head once I hit the ground.

[shanti]

40. i do

but it's not like we have any control over what happens :shrug: we're along for the ride.

[Shrek]

41. I care quite a bit

Also the commodity and currency markets.

With interest rates so low, active trading is about the only way to get a decent return on investments.

[spanone]

43. you obviously have no money in the market. i do. therefore, i care.

[xchrom]

45. You should care very much about what happens in all of the markets.

From what happens to the value of the dollar to the price of just about everything to politics and political power --
It's all there.

[Bucky]

46. Wait, my options are I *could* give a fuck vs. I *do* give a fuck?

Poll options are supposed to be mutually exclusive. These are synonyms.

[nc4bo]

51. Checking in. nt

[devils chaplain]

52. I don't, but probably for a different reason...

Because I'm not going to be dipping into my IRA/401k for at least 25 years. Daily, weekly, monthly, even yearly fluctuations are irrelevant. What's there in 25 years is what will be there.

[some guy]

54. I don't have any flying fucks.

:shrug:

By default, I could NOT give two flying fucks about how the stock market is doing.

[L0oniX]

56. Ask not how your country can fuck you ...ask how you can fuck your country.

[walldude]

57. Well these results explain much...

about the attitudes on DU....

as for me, Wall Street disgusts me. Even if I had the money to invest I wouldn't.

[Telly Savalas]

61. Pension funds for public employees invest in Wall Street. I think pensions are good.

Obviously maximizing the value of the S&P 500 shouldn't be the central goal of economic policy, but one has to recognize that pretty much every retirement savings plan whether it's a defined-benefit pension or a 401(k) is tied to the fortunes of the stock market.

[RagAss]

58. If I could Fly and Fuck...I wouldn't need to buy stocks !

[Nye Bevan]

59. The better the stock market does, the easier it is for companies to raise capital,

which means that it is easier for them to expand, which of course creates more jobs.

You don't have to own stocks to root for the stock market.

[IDemo]

60. I opted out of the 401k at my new job

Once, bitten, twice shy.

But I understand that for many people it's an important part of their investment plan.