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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 04:31 AM Original message |
Well well well.. Maybe doctors don't make the huge salaries we have been led to believe. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 04:43 AM Response to Original message |
1. It's not doctor's salaries; it's corporate profit-taking on each & every medical interaction. |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 06:24 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Bingo. Why should insurance company stockholders receive a dime of our healthcare money? .... |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 06:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. My neighbor is on a wet something or other breathing machine |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 07:34 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I had to take the same thing with my dvt |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 08:44 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. I was lucky to be a Vet |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 07:30 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Which is why Ryan's Medicare voucher solution is brilliant! |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 07:37 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. It's because the insurance companies see MILLIONS of lost customers as the boomers retire |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 08:49 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. I think you're the first I've heard that has pointed out that angle, the lost |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 10:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Yes - They're Winning - Private insurance companies push for 'individual mandate' |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 10:28 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. this is an EXCELLENT point- makes sense that its part of the |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 05:56 AM Response to Original message |
2. There are exceptions. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 07:34 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. there are LOTS of exceptions |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 05:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
39. he apparently has his own practice. that's no longer the norm. |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
5. Of course, some double-specialties, like cardiac pediatricians, |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 07:34 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Even so, those wages are NOT outrageous, by any standard |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 07:37 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. My cousin is an anesthesiologist and her malpractice premium is more than my yearly salary |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 10:40 AM Response to Reply #10 |
24. I have read that in countries that have national health care, the malpractice issue pretty much goes |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. My cousin is a huge supporter of single payer |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 07:38 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. for the record,the guy who whittled my brain made $800k last year. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 10:21 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. having had some delicate surgery myself I don't begrudge them that. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
11. Doctors provide a necessary service to humanity. |
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Lugnut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 12:38 AM Response to Reply #11 |
33. +100 n/t |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
15. those doctors dont. the specialists do. nt |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 09:55 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Obstetricians and Gynecological= specialist,(in my book anyway) |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 10:26 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. My PCP is quite wealthy. Absolutely wonderful woman--and |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
18. knr - and some interesting points in this link ... |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
23. good info- k&R |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
25. $170,000+ is an exclusive club. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. You have to look past the gross income, hours worked, years of training ... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 12:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. That's not the point of the op. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 12:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. The OP talks about training ... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 12:36 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. The main "other factor" is that doctors strictly control the supply of doctors. n/t |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Other factors below ... |
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anneboleyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 01:17 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. Professors go to school longer for Ph.D.s, work as hard (or harder), and earn far less than doctors |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 01:19 AM Response to Reply #25 |
37. Yeah. They're doing fine. |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-11 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
30. They also pay insane amounts of money on student loans. |
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taught_me_patience (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
34. They don't. My wife is an MD |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 01:10 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. The insurance lobby & legislators & media have done a number on doctors |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
38. Actually, provider payments (including but not limited to doctors) are the reason that medical costs |
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