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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 03:23 PM
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***** Official LIVE BLOG Senate = Tax Cuts Debate III *****
Edited on Tue Dec-14-10 03:26 PM by L. Coyote
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 03:24 PM
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1. links thread
Edited on Tue Dec-14-10 03:32 PM by L. Coyote
add article and thread links here
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 03:28 PM
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3. Berniebuster, the Filibuster
VIDEO: KO: "Berniebuster"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x534358

-SPAN has posted the entire event, in three parts!!
http://cspan.org/Watch/Media/2010/12/11/HP/R/41812/Sen+Sanders+Holds+8+12+hour+Tax+Cut+Filibuster.aspx

Let us know if you can watch the entire filibuster standing and without a bathroom or food break :rofl:
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 03:37 PM
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7. Filibernie's Greatest Hits = some of the best excerpts

Filibernie's Greatest Hits
Josh Harkinson
Fri Dec. 10, 2010 = http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/12/bernie-sanders-filibuster


At 10:24 on Friday morning, Senator Bernard Sanders, an independent from Vermont and self-described socialist, took to the podium in the Senate to denounce the Obama/GOP tax accord. He did not leave for another eight and a half hours. His old-school filibuster, which technically wasn't a filibuster at all, was ignored or downplayed by much of the media. But that didn't stop it from going viral. By early evening, Sanders' name had become the second-most-popular term on Google and tops on Twitter, where untold thousands rallied to his cause under the hash tag #filibernie.

An impassioned tirade of the sort that many liberals had once hoped to hear from the President, the speech was even more interesting in chunks larger than 140 characters. In the (likely) event that you didn't have time to listen to the whole thing, here are some of best excerpts: ......
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 03:52 PM
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11. SALON: Bernie Sanders' epic tax cut filibuster rant
On CSPAN, six hours after first taking the podium to filibuster against the tax cut deal at around 10:25 Friday morning,
Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., is still talking. The CSPAN subtitle is "U.S. Senate: Tax Cuts & Unemployment Benefits,"
but for the last few minutes he has been blasting trade polices that disadvantage American workers.

But that's fine. His epic rant -- perhaps one of the most extraordinary critiques of how the American economy has been
managed over the last several decades delivered in living memory -- is an endless sequence of connecting the dots from
one outrage to another. Even as I wrote this paragraph, he segued effortlessly from trade policy to Wall Street.

"But it is not just a disastrous trade policy that has brought us where we are today. The immediate cause of this crisis,
and it gets me just sick talking about it ... is what the crooks on Wall Street have done to the American people."

Sanders then delivers a capsule history of deregulation, blasts Alan Greenspan, notes that in the late '90s he had
predicted everything that ultimately happened, but failed to rally legislative support to stop the runaway train --
"and the rest is, unfortunately, history."

From there, a class warfare sideswipe: ......

http://www.salon.com/news/bernard_sanders/?story=/tech/htww/2010/12/10/bernie_sanders_epic_filibuster_rant
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:03 PM
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15. William Pitt What Bernie Said, Part I
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 03:31 PM
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4. Obama plan will raise taxes on 150,000,000 Americans
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 03:33 PM
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5. Ralph Nader: Millions of people will be paying the bill for Obama's failure to fight for them
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 03:25 PM
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2. K&R - Can I watch/blog without my blood boiling? nt
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 03:35 PM
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6. General Speeches now, formal debate to follow later today.
Sen. Thune was addressing the Tax Cuts issue, so I started the thread early.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 03:38 PM
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8. Harkin's speech on for-profit colleges is actually pretty interesting.
Those crooks need to be dealt with.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 03:39 PM
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9. agreed. they need to be shut the hell down. just like payday lenders.
opportunistic fuckers.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 03:47 PM
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10. University of Phoenix targets veterans to hoover up their GI bill money. eom
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:00 PM
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14. I should have read this before I posted below
That was what pissed me off so much; getting back from Iraq and these putzes are giving out brochures trying to take these kids' GI Bill money. And as an NCO I couldn't smack them across the head and tell them not to listen to them, as much as I wanted to.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 03:54 PM
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12. I'm disgusted with what he is saying. nt
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 03:58 PM
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13. God, I hate those assholes
When we were getting back from Iraq they had Phoenix and Strayer recruiters passing out brochures to us :mad:
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:12 PM
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16. Reid: Don't Know 'Exact Schedule' For Final Senate Tax Vote
US Reid: Don't Know 'Exact Schedule' For Final Senate Tax Vote
By John Shaw = http://imarketnews.com/?q=node/23929


WASHINGTON (MNI) - Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Tuesday that he does yet not know the "exact schedule" when the Senate will cast its final votes on the $858 billion tax cut and spending package that was negotiated by President Obama and congressional Republican leaders.

In a key procedural vote Monday evening, the Senate voted 83 to 15 to formally end the debate on the tax cut and spending bill bill.

Ending the debate required 60 votes. Now that this was achieved, the Senate still can debate the bill for another 30 hours, delaying the final Senate vote until Tuesday or Wednesday.

Reid said that the debate time expires at midnight, but the Senate vote could be held before then or delayed until Wednesday morning.

Before a final Senate vote, Senate leaders may allow for each party to offer an amendment to the bill ......
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:14 PM
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17. Senate Schedule
Convenes: 10:00am
Following any Leader remarks, the Senate will resume consideration of the House Message to accompany H.R.4853, the vehicle for the tax agreement, post-cloture.

....
- Senator Harkin will be recognized at 3:15 to speak for up to 45 minutes.
- Senator Kirk will be recognized at 5:00pm to deliver his Maiden speech.

http://democrats.senate.gov/calendar/2010-12.html

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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:27 PM
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18. Sen. Bernie Sanders up now
anyone recording
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:31 PM
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19. Increases National debt 700 BILLION dollars
Edited on Tue Dec-14-10 04:31 PM by L. Coyote
"horrendous proposal regarding the estate tax" ... "applies to the top three-tenths of one percent" another 80 BILLION lost
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:39 PM
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20. NOW what? 45 minutes of Sen. Chambliss and friends
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 05:07 PM
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21. Kick. Please keep this updated am currently on satellite internet
and it's too slow to stream CSPAN
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 05:56 PM
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22. DEBATE: Ensign showing a chart of inflation before Great Depression
11.5% unemployment

Harding proposed cut in spending 1/3

Tax rates were slashed too
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 06:04 PM
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23. ENSIGN: Deficity not caused by tax cuts, caused by spending
Now its the Health Care bill causing the slow down
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 06:20 PM
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24. Durbin up now, disaghreeing with Ensign. FDR was new approach
FDIC, Wall Street watchdogs, farmer assistance, job creation, minimum wage, WPA jobs, building things to serve for generations.

Republicans started saying what they say today!! Reducing stimulus was negative, the WWII was the new stimulus that restored the economy by putting everyone to work.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 06:23 PM
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25. Washington to Clinton 5 trillion debt. Bush 1 trillion a year
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 06:24 PM
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26. This bill another trillion in debt, plus interest
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 06:30 PM
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27. Sen. Jack Reed, 15 million need a job
bad provisions in this bill but will support the unemployed
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 01:07 PM
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28. FINAL VOTE in progress. Simple majority needed to send the measure to the House.
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