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masmdu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:52 PM
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Wisconsin...Is it Possible the 'Found Votes' are being counted twice? Entered as part of the ....
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 01:14 PM by masmdu
total from another city/several other cities within the county to make the overall numbers of votes jive.

This done with the idea that if the election was close these (isurance) votes could then be "found" and added back in and any checking would show that yes indeed they handn't been counted FOR THE CITY THEY ORIGINATED IN...however, all the other cities would have to be checked to make sure they were not counted TWICE by adding them into another city's total during the original tally.

Just thinking how they might set this up to make it look legit unless it is investigated the correct way.

So, how could this be uncovered?

If Nikolaus took the total votes from the city in Waukesha that she now claims she didn't correctly enter (Let's call it City A ,14000) and added it to antother city's total (City B or distributed among serveral cities totals) in the same county then City B's total would include all the original votes of city A and it would not be questioned if Posser had a clear win.

Now, if Posser was found in a close race Nikolaus could make the claim she atually made (there by putting Posser ahead) and simply show that those votes from city A had not yet been counted. The Democrat checking over her shoulder would have to confirm this.

City A's total is thereby counted TWICE, once secretly added to another city's or serveral other cities' totals and then again in the open as a "mea culpa" that just happens to change the results.

Does this make sense?
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:54 PM
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 01:02 PM
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3. Holy shit, dude, you just can't stop, can you?
I've hidden your thread and now I'm putting you on ignore. At least until this is over. I doubt I'm the first, or last, to do so.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 01:03 PM
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4. Thanks...
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:59 PM
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2. That's what I was wondering.
Got entered in the wrong column (city/town) so was added in total. I've done things like this and since total was correct didn't always find it for lack of looking.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 01:06 PM
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5. Fitrakis found this to be true in Montgomery co Oh & they tried to blame it on boy scouts! Really!
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masmdu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 01:41 PM
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6. So it has been done before? Do you have any links?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 11:53 AM
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7. It was Miami County OH not Montgomery...
The freepress.org archive site it down right not but here it is highlighted in a MCM piece for Harper's Magazine:

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To what end would election officials risk so malodorous an action? We can only guess, of course. We do know, however, that Ohio, like the nation, was the site of numerous statistical anomalies—so many that the number is itself statistically anomalous, since every single one of them took votes from Kerry. In Butler County the Democratic candidate for State Supreme Court took in 5,347 more votes than Kerry did. In Cuyahoga County ten Cleveland precincts “reported an incredibly high number of votes for third party candidates who have historically received only a handful of votes from these urban areas”—mystery votes that would mostly otherwise have gone to Kerry. In Franklin County, Bush received nearly 4,000 extra votes from one computer, and, in Miami County, just over 13,000 votes appeared in Bush's column after all precincts had reported. In Perry County the number of Bush votes somehow exceeded the number of registered voters, leading to voter turnout rates as high as 124 percent. Youngstown, perhaps to make up the difference, reported negative 25 million votes.
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http://harpers.org/archive/2005/08/0080696

B. Exceptionally High Voter Turnout. According to Representative John Conyers’ letter to J. Kenneth Blackwell (12/2), in Miami County (Concord Southwest precinct) voter turnout was a highly suspect and improbable 98.55%. The certified result showed 520 votes for Bush and 157 for Kerry. This statistically improbable turnout has all but 10 of the 689 registered voters casting their ballots on Election Day. A preliminary canvas by The Free Press of less than half the precinct found 25 registered voters admitting they had not voted. In nearby Concord South precinct, there was a highly improbable 94.27% voter turnout. Miami County election results indicated that 18,615 votes came in after 100% of the precincts had reported. It is statistically suspicious that the extra votes came in at essentially the same percentage for candidates Bush and Kerry both before and after the 18,615 votes were counted Senator Kerry had received 10,724 votes (33.92%) of the vote after 100% of the precincts had reported. After the additional 18,615 votes were added, his percentage remained 33.92%.

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I'll contact the freepress & see what's up
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