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Playinghardball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 11:41 AM Original message |
All of humanity could shift to solar, wind energy in less than 25 years, policy study group claims |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
1. It'll never happen. |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
2. Yes, We Can! |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. First |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Not so much taxes as corporate profits |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Both |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
32. Yes, |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
3. Only if politicians don't stand in the way - as they have for decades. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Generally speaking, politicians don't have courage so the people must supply it for them. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. It's not about courage - they're bought and paid for... |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 12:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I should have put the word "courage" in quotation marks. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. Ah, I see - absolutely! |
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ItNerd4life (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
9. And if it's raining and there is no wind? |
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Sal Minella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. We didn't have cell phones a few years back, either. |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. "We need energy storage solutions which we don't have." |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Besides |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. That works well for point-of-use systems |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Yes my solar lights are point-of-use... |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Deserts are optimal for solar arrays |
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kentauros (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Deep-Offshore Wind Power: |
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kentauros (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 02:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. One thing I just pondered, is what to do with the 'holes' |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
23. No shit. I can't use my solar power calculator at night. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
35. There are good solutions to that problem. Some using relatively simple technology. |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
14. And if we had followed Jimmy Carter's plan, we would ALREADY be oil free |
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kentauros (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 01:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. I don't think we'd be "oil free", |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Half? No, far less. |
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kentauros (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 01:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Okay, I stand corrected on the percentage. |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 02:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Even some medicines rely on petrochemical feedstocks |
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kentauros (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Oh sure, |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. I think we'll always need some, though |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
33. Bingo. Why can our leaders nowadays not seem to learn anything from history? |
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stuntcat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
34. yup. |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
15. We should be diverting our remaining oil and nuke energy to this |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
16. "Targeted investments by world governments" |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
19. Ha! Not unless ExxonMobil manages to acquire rights to the sun. |
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orwell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
26. But...but... |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
36. Go outside, flip off your main circuit breaker, there, you are done! |
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