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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 02:48 PM Original message |
Greenwald was wrong. There is no James appointment.... |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. His righteousness.. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. Wish more media, and politicians, would be this forthcoming when they get it wrong the first time |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Agreed. And Duer's too...nt |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Exactly so, Sid -- DUers too! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
4. He also posted the letter from Dr. James. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. No one from the Bush administration EVER lied to make |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. funny how the self appointed journalism police |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
8. No, he wasn't wrong. He reported the email that went out. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. His posting was more than just a report of the email... |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Good, professional journalists independently confirm with another source. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
11. This sounds oddly like the attacks upon Wikileaks. Discredit, make sources unreliable, etc... |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. The International Human Rights Clinic at Harvard has the original email. |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
28. Why would someone want to tarnish his own reputation? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. He's not a journalist; he's a professional leftist. |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Try to follow a simple conversation n/t |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. That was my imitation of Glenn Greenwald. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
26. It also sounds oddly like what you do when the source is actually unreliable. |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
13. his earlier story was that he'd received an email |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Why didn't he contact the WH before publishing the article? |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. First of all he printed the e-mail directly from Dr James |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. I would think that receiving confirmation about WH appointments from the WH would be SOP. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. No, I'm saying that he made a sensational accusation against the White House... |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #18 |
35. he stated right up front that James was circulating an email |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Does he know that it was Dr. James? |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. according to the blog post... |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 06:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. So? |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 06:22 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. you asked if the email came from Dr. James |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 02:02 AM Response to Reply #38 |
58. You mean did Larry James send an email to his students |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. The headline was sensationally misleading. n/t |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. not really, considering the email source nt |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 06:26 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. IHRC even said that Dr James "claims" in their headline |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 07:07 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. so? they also confirm that Dr. James sent the email nt |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 07:30 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. And GG took "claims" as proof in his headline |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
14. So even though at the link you posted, Greenwald posted |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. Greenwald should have got confirmation from the WH... |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #14 |
44. "(Is it) Greenwald's fault for believing him" |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
16. Thanks. Phew. That's really great news. nt |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
17. Let's send Glenn Greenwald a bunch of emails and see if he reports every one. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. I doubt he'll report on an email that says "dooga dooga dooga". |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. I bet if you claim you got hired by the White House |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Especially if I sent it from an address like drjames@yahoo.com. |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
55. right. because an email from, say, LoZoccolo, is going to have the same import and credibility |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 09:43 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Let's see if he checks Snopes first. |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
19. The outrage machine is now kicking itself ... |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:34 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. I'm sure some will never admit their initial knee jerk was wrong. n/t |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. Its better than that, they are complaining because we are laughing about the knee jerk. |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
21. I wonder if Greenwald got it right, then got it wrong |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
24. This is a big relief. Thanks for posting the correction. n/t |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
37. I'm surprised he didn't request a response from the whitehouse |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
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mythology (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
42. Well that's awkward. |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
43. Greenwald is a joke |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 06:18 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. +1 |
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iwishiwas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
45. As I read it, Dr James thought he was invited along with the group-but |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
52. lolz |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. very busy |
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