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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:16 PM
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On the Judges decision

On the Judges decision
Well to say that the reaction to the decision has been predictable on the far reaches of the right.

That said, it was clear, even to those outside WI that indeed there were egregious violations of law. This is what the courts do.

Now on a more general observation, what we are seeing as well is a very organic movement growing in the Midwest. The last time anything like this happened was the rise of the Granger Halls well in the 19th century. It is starting to strike me as that kind of a populist movement. The tiger will be soon held by the tail.

As to the Granger Halls, they emerged out of a sense that the social contract was violated, and something had to be done. Well the same feeling is here now.

Oh and the recalls will happen, and they alone will change the balance of power in the Wisconsin Senate.

Good job people of Wisconsin.

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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:19 PM
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1. The People are starting to speak back
Good luck to us all.
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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:30 PM
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2. Granger halls?
are you referring to the grange?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:36 PM
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3. Yep, 19th century party
Minnesota still has a few.

They were mostly absorbed by the democrats by the early 20th century
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cilla4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:45 PM
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5. We still have Grange halls here
in rural eastern Washington state. Same thing? I thought they were kind of farmers' unions?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 03:11 PM
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6. Same thing, it started in Texas iirc in 1880 or so
due to the robber barons
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 12:34 PM
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14. The first Grange order was started in Washington, DC, in 1867.
Edited on Sat Mar-19-11 12:34 PM by Brickbat
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:44 PM
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4. The historical parallels are important
ReTHUGS were mistakenly of the view that they were in the South.
Rachel gave some interesting history lessons from Ohio last night. These ReTHUGS and Teabaggers are going to learn another hard lesson.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 03:11 PM
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7. Watch the Democrats become that more populist
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 03:12 PM
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8. About fugging time
many of them remember their roots
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themadstork Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 03:39 PM
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9. a populist movement from the midwest would be nice
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 03:43 PM by themadstork
Growing up here surrounded by the weirdly Republican working poor. . . Never been very proud of my area politically.

Though, growing up, at least these "red-blooded" dumbasses didn't rail against each other. It was the government and the scary liberal elite. Now they have factory workers blaming public school teachers for their economic woes. How long can people go along with this crap before they realize they've been duped?

Edit - in a way you have to marvel at it. I will steal from both group A and B and I, asserting myself as their rightful leader C, will convince group A that group B is the reason I had to steal their stuff. How does that happen?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:21 PM
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11. You pay one half of the working class to fight the other half
that is an apropo saying
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 03:58 PM
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10. Plenty of organizations "like this" have risen in the 20th century, especially in the Midwest.
The farmer-labor coalitions and parties, the cooperative movement, and even socialist work were very common in the first half of the 20th century, and their influence is still around today.
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cilla4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 09:39 AM
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12. Hoping - waiting - for a resurgence
Edited on Sat Mar-19-11 09:39 AM by cilla4progress
I don't know - it seems like that bell has already rung. Maybe take a more palpable crisis. Seems like the worst things you can call someone in modern-day America: socialist; atheist; pagan (I'm arguably all three!) :crazy:
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bluetex Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 10:13 AM
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13. Sad thing is....
Rule 93 is prob'ly gonna' screw this thing up.

Even sadder? 2 of our own were authors to the rule. :-(
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