Video of Libyan Rebels announcing that they DON'T want foreign intervention.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tZ2oTLb2XU

I was told that these people don't exist and that they're all in Canada. That's not to say that some rebels do want a no-fly zone. But many, many fighters don't. So let's have a moratorium on calling those who oppose airstrikes "Gaddafi lovers" and other such bullshit. We can disagree without being offensive. Especially on this issue. I don't think that people who support an airstrike are somehow secretly pro-occupation, so don't assume I'm pro-Gaddafi.

Regardless of your position on airstrikes, the segment is interesting anyway.

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1. No takers, huh? I thought everyone wants foreign intervention in Libya!

[Quixote1818]

2. Keep in mind that video is over two weeks old and before things started falling apart

for the Rebels.

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7. Oh right. They've completely changed their feeling about intervention because they're struggling.

That makes sense. Newsflash: they've been struggling the whole time.

[provis99]

13. yes they DID change their minds.

They want foreign intervention now that Qadaffi has almost won.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/14/libyan-rebel-leaders-gaddafi-benghazi

[joshcryer]

9. Keep in mind they do not consider NFZ the same kind of foreign intervention.

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12. Glad you asked them. I'm sure they're for airstrikes.

:eyes:

[joshcryer]

15. You really don't know what you're talking about.

Watch this video from the same reporters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKJABITpjFs&feature=channel_video_title

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21. You didn't watch to the end where he says the Libyan people should be suspicious of intervention.

And you didn't get to the point where the reporter says that the UN security council saying intervene in Libya but not Gaza shows that there really isn't international law anymore, that it's just powerful nations doing whatever it is that they want. But it seems that at least some rebels want a no-fly zone now. Whether they want airstrikes I think is another matter. We'll see.

The CCR lawyer says unequivocally that he thinks western intervention is a mistake. And I agree with him. I guess he doesn't know what he's talking about either.

[joshcryer]

22. You need to do as your nickname says and actually look at the history of the NFZ.

They do not consider it the same as military on the ground.

http://nowlebanon.com/NewsArchiveDetails.aspx?ID=249498

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23. I'll stick with the guy from CCR's analysis of NFZ. Not the guy who doesn't know what his own avatar

stands for. But thanks for pointing out CCR's analysis. I do in fact agree with them that the no-fly zone is something to be wary of.

[leftstreet]

3. K&R

Thanks for posting that

[Unvanguard]

4. "March 1, 2011"

At the time, it looked like the rebels were clearly winning, and foreign intervention probably would have done more harm than good. Times have changed. See, e.g., http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2011/0317/Libyan-rebels-in-Benghazi-celebrate-UN-s-historic-no-fly-zone-vote">here.

[tabatha]

5. They still DO NOT WANT boots on the ground.

Btw, follow #Libya on twitter to keep up with what they are saying.

[Turborama]

8. And the UN Security Council resolution specifically states that....

Under "Protection of civilians" #4: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x677397

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11. It also demands a ceasefire. And they don't want that.

[Turborama]

25. What they don't want is a Srebenica type massacre and what they do want is for Gaddafi Inc. to go

Have you seen any reports of them saying they don't want a ceasefire, or are you just assuming and making that up?

[itsrobert]

6. You should read more often the date of the video

Before they were being exterminated by Qaddafi.

[readmoreoften]

10. What on earth does the DATE have to do with it. They were being exterminated by Gaddafi.

It's insulting to the rebels to insist that they've somehow changed their position on wanting European intervention in their civil war because their side is losing.

[joshcryer]

16. In three days Gaddafi took 6 cities and razed several others?

Watch this report from the same people in your link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKJABITpjFs

You are intentionally trying to be misleading, I really dislike people who are so vocal when they clearly haven't followed the events in Libya.

[27inCali]

17. it's not an insult to say they changed their minds

the conditions have totally changed and they were a few hrs away from being wiped out utterly until this happened. Nothing wrong in changing your mind and realizing you need help.

[joshcryer]

18. They actually didn't "change their minds" a NFZ was on the table as early as 2 weeks ago.

This report in fact does not discount a no fly zone in any way whatsoever. By "foreign intervention" they have always meant military boots on the ground. Look at the video again, it shows Egypt giving them food supplies. That's foreign intervention.

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[Cerridwen]

14. March 17, 2011 - CNN Interview - Benghazi

Added On March 17, 2011
CNN's Arwa Damon reports on the anger in Benghazi, at the failure of world leaders to impose a no-fly zone in Libya.

Fixed link

edit: working on the link; the video plays after Nic Robertson

[Iterate]

19. There's already been foreign intervention in Libya,

and we don't need to go back to brutal Italian/Mussolini/fascist colonialism or Soviet manipulations and Soviet arms.

Mercenaries, American PR firms and neocons, German chemical companies, EU and US bankers, Russian arms dealers (and every other nation that manufactures weapons), African despots, Italian gas companies, cowardly Maltese politicians, British academics -all and many more have intervened to prop this guy up and assist his brutality, many of them recently.

The revolutionaries are asking essentially only one thing: Intervene with asset seizures, embargoes, and a no-fly zone (all issues over which they have no control), to partly negate the interventions of the past and give them, and them alone, a level battlefield. They'll take care of the rest and turn the clock back to the constitutional government they once had.

[joshcryer]

20. Feb 21:

http://www.english.globalarabnetwork.com/201102219941/Libya-Politics/libyan-ambassador-to-un-urges-international-community-to-stop-genocide.html

[eridani]

26. They want no foreign troops, period. They are fine with a no-fly zone. n/t