House defeats Rep. Kucinich's resolution calling for withdrawal from Afghanistan, 321-93

[The Straight Story]

House defeats Rep. Kucinich's resolution calling for withdrawal from Afghanistan, 321-93 - AP

http://www.breakingnews.com/

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

1. We need to leave now, we are no longer wanted there.

[gateley]

5. Were we ever wanted there? Except maybe for Karsai so he could rake in $ billions? nt

[WinkyDink]

10. "no longer"?! We invaded ILLEGALLY, as with Iraq!

[Drale]

17. I'm not a war supporter but

all invasions are Illegal. When the Allies invaded Europe in WWII, it was a coalition of countries invading a sovereign nation, but it was necessary. You can't just say the invasion was illegal, you have to have better reasons we have to leave now.

[sakabatou]

2. *sigh*

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

3. Fighting and funding lost wars is becoming the "American Way".

See Rome and Japan for precedents and how that worked out.

[The Straight Story]

4. They vote to defund NPR, but war not so much...sigh (nt)

[WinkyDink]

12. That would be "illegal invasions".

[Old and In the Way]

6. A vote to continue to burn $3,000,000,000.00 a week in Afghanistan.

Afghanistan will cost nearly $105 billion in the 2010 fiscal year that ends Sept. 30, including most of $33 billion in additional spending requested by Obama and pending before Congress. Iraq will cost about $66 billion. In fiscal 2011, Afghanistan is projected to cost $117 billion, Iraq $46 billion. To date, Pentagon spending in Iraq has reached $620 billion, compared with $190 billion in Afghanistan.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/2010-05-12-afghan_N.htm


This is how empires end. Moral and financial bankruptcy supporting wars without end. Shame on Democrats for voting this to continue, given the dire economic straits for the taxpayers in this country.

[gateley]

7. Anybody have a link for the Thomas vote record? I can never find it on my own --

I'd like to e-mail all those 93 who voted w/Dennis to express my thanks. Thanks!

[slipslidingaway]

22. Links ...

this particular vote
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll193.xml

all 1st session - 112th
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/index.asp

vote link will also show on current floor proceedings page
http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.html

[gateley]

27. Thank you SO MUCH. Every time I go there I tell myself I'll remember where to

go, I never do.

I bookmark but then it gets buried in my bookmarks, but this time I'll name them VOTE RESULTS!

:hi:

[slipslidingaway]

33. You're very welcome, also here is an alternative ...

start a thread in the Congress forum as it is hardly ever used and easy to find. Make sure to add the Congress forum to "my forums" so it is always at the top of your page.

Added this close to 3 years ago and it is only on page 2 in the forum.

How to use the C-Span Video library...

:hi:

[katsy]

8. Do we really have 93 progressive/liberal

Congresspeople?

Then why do all the tea partiers get so much press?

Let's double that 93 # in 2012! Something good to work for!

[Scuba]

11. +1

[gateley]

29. I haven't looked at the breakdown yet, but I'm thinking some of these votes

may indeed be Teabaggers - just don't want to spend the money on the war (which is fine by me, I'll take votes for that any day!)

Going to go see who our 'heroes' are now! :hi:

[sarcasmo]

9. War good, jobs bad, war good, jobs bad. Stupid assholes.

[Tarheel_Dem]

13. Another Kooch defeat? How someone as ineffective as Dennis has such a loyal...

internet following is just laughable. Did anyone hear think this vote would turn out any differently?

[ljm2002]

18. Yeah, it's just laughable...

...that anyone would dare to fight for what is right, against incredible odds, and keep fighting even when they lose votes.

He got >20% of the House to vote FOR it, in spite of it being an incredibly conservative (and nutball) body right now.

In the meantime, the House Republicans had an EMERGENCY committee meeting to push forward on defunding NPR, which they brought to a vote and it won. I wonder, do you have the same contempt for the yahoos who saw that as an EMERGENCY at the same time that the catastrophe in Japan is occurring, at the same time that American jobs continue to disappear, at the same time that our coffers are being drained by two ongoing ILLEGAL and IMMORAL wars? Is it your contention that a good Democrat is one who sees the inevitable and just rolls over, rather than fighting back? Is it your contention that there is no moral dimension to the matters before Congress?

You go, Dennis, keep up the good fight. History will record who was on what side, and you are on the right side of history on this matter.

[alstephenson]

20. +1

[MrCoffee]

23. Hear hear!

[readmoreoften]

32. +1

[chill_wind]

36. When it comes to the war lobby, they all eat from the same dog dish.

Except a few. Of course they defeated it.

[ljm2002]

39. True that...

...but there is always a place for the appeal to conscience. Not to mention the appeal to fiscal prudence, and the rule of law. These wars are an affront to all of those.

[chill_wind]

40. I agree whole heartedly. The war mongerers' votes

to keep the killing machine well greased for another indefinite amount of time, while hemorrhaging our economy to death are nothing to gloat over.

[dixiegrrrrl]

31. Talk about backwards thinking.

Neo cons have been controlling Congress since 1980, but it's Dennis' fault for being "ineffective"?

I guess a lot of Dems here on DU are equally ineffective, then. Shame on us, eh?

[Tatiana]

37. Sounds like the type of arrogance and contempt the Republicans display for the rest of us.

This same look led to us losing in 2010. Keep up the damaging work.

[Tarheel_Dem]

44. Arrogance, you say? Who were the arrogant journalists and talking heads..

telling Democrats that they've been had? Who were the arrogant jerks in the blogosphere actively trying to suppress enthusiasm, and ultimately, turnout in 2010? You speak as if St. Dennis, of the "I saw a UFO" fringe is even remotely in the mainstream of the Democratic party. Sorry, but that's your fantasy, not mine.

Dennis is a kook, and while he may be the loudest rep we have in Congress, he is arguably the least effective. Much like Michelle Bachmann, he has a following, no matter how loony they may appear to the rest of us. :hi:

[timtom]

38. I know...right?

Obama's got this. He's just playing four-dimensional checkers.

[ljm2002]

14. 93 votes for it is pretty good, though...

...that means more than 20% of House members voted for it.

Good on ya, Dennis, keep pushing!

[Modern_Matthew]

15. How many Democrats voted against it? They must get the boot. nt

[timtom]

16. And what could their justification possibly be?

321 people are in favor of this illegal occupation? What drives them? Justice? Critical thinking? The will of their constituents?

It buggers the imagination.

[northernlights]

19. at least it wasn't 413 - 1

:(

[Desertrose]

21. Bastards.

At least Dennis keeps trying.

Go Dennis!!

[jwirr]

24. And our deficit is such a problem - unless it is something they support.

:sarcasm:

[raouldukelives]

25. Why would we stop our biggest export during a down economy?

If we weren't killing or constructing things to kill our economy would really, ah, tank.

[Modern_Matthew]

26. 99 warmongers in the House pretending to be Democrats.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll193.xml

[chill_wind]

35. 99 of them holding hands with the Republicans. Nothing new.

Thanks for the link. Thank you to DK for drawing the bright line. Every one can see it.

[Solomon]

28. Damn. I thought Kucinich could get it done since he's progressive

and has so much more backbone and spine than Obama.

Damn.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

30. It's Obama's "necessary" war. Gotta show he's tough on terra'.

[bluestate10]

34. Obama was up front about his view of the war in Afghanistan during

his campaign. I knew what I was voting for.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

42. Yes, he was. That's why I didn't vote for him

And, it's still lost and he's still wasting lives to save face.

[chill_wind]

41. Growing opposition. Two thirds of Americans say Afghanistan not worth

fighting. Support for this war has never been lower.

march 15
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/poll-nearly-two-thirds-of-americans-say-afghan-war-isnt-worth-fighting/2011/03/14/ABRbeEW_story.html

DK is on the side of the people.

[Ramulux]

43. Every single democrat who voted against this

needs to get a primary challenger from the left.