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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:30 AM
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Fun with anti-abortionists
Now that the Food and Drug Administration approved a commercial version of a progesterone drug intended to prevent high-risk women from going into premature labor, raising the cost per weekly dose from $20 to $1,500, it raises some VERY interesting questions.

It might be heaps o' fun to try these out on your local anti-abortion folks or right wing radio hosts and watch them twist themselves into pretzels of illogic.

Given that some states are trying to pass laws requiring criminal investigations into ALL miscarriages, and some state or other is trying to make it legal to kill someone who is participating in an abortion, and

Given that the FDA is letting K-V Pharmaceutical charge $1500 per dose for a formerly $20 per dose drug that helps prevent premature labor,

Does this mean that women who can't afford the drug and consequently lose their pregnancies will be subject to criminal investigation, or legally shot dead by vigilantes for failing to come up with the price of the drug?

What if they need it for, say, 10 weeks at a cost of $15,000 in order to keep their pregnancies going? Will Right-to-Life pay for the drug?

Will there be criminal investigations into K-V Pharmaceutical for making it unaffordable for a woman to continue a pregnancy?

Will they also investigate the FDA for criminal activity for allowing the high price?

How about the pharmacist and the doctor?

How about the insurance company that almost certainly will refuse to cover the exorbitant cost?

Does this mean that in some states it could be considered justifiable homicide to kill members of the FDA decision-making body and the executives of K-V Pharmaceutical? And will Right-to-Lifers go out there and bravely pull the triggers on them?

:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

Link to article about the drug price increase:
http://www.latimes.com/health/boostershots/la-heb-premature-drug-03092011,0,4847507.story
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:31 AM
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1. Yuppers!. . .k&r. . . n/t
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:33 AM
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2. I would have said the "Forced Pregnancy Brigade"
But otherwise K&R
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:34 AM
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3. I'd like to see what rationalizations they use
for not wanting to pay for such a drug because my feeling is that they would NOT want to pay for it.

Perhaps one of their "reasons" would be that it's not their responsibility if a woman can't carry a pregnancy full term. Just like it's not their responsibility what happens to a fetus once it's born.

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:35 AM
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4. K-V Pharmaceutical is in Missouri.
Anti-Abortion Bill Advances in Missouri
By JOE HARRIS

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. (CN) - A panel of Missouri lawmakers approved legislation that would ban abortions after the 20th week of pregnancy unless two doctors conclude it is necessary to save the life of the mother. Doctors who violate the law would be guilty of a felony.

The House Health Care Policy Committee endorsed the bill by 9-1 vote.

The legislation, sponsored by House Majority Leader Tim Jones, R-Eureka, goes now to the full house; a similar bill is awaiting a Senate committee hearing.

The bill would require doctors to determine whether a fetus older than 20 weeks would be viable outside of the mother's womb.

More:
http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/02/18/34294.htm


http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=&q=One+Corporate+Woods+Drive+Bridgeton,+MO+63044&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS334US334&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=1+Corporate+Woods+Dr,+Bridgeton,+MO+63044&gl=us&ei=keF4TfHdOsmdgQfU8qTbBw&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBgQ8gEwAA


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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:40 AM
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7. So would an insurance company be guilty of a felony
if it refuses to cover the cost of the progesterone drug for a woman at risk of early labor, who is more than 20 weeks pregnant? Hmmmm.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:35 AM
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5. Sounds fun on paper, but you won't like how it turns out.
You're expecting a rational conversation with irrational people. Ain't gonna happen. Yes, they will demand that the drugs be taken. It will be God's will.

Just wait. "Fun" will not be the operative word.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:38 AM
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6. You're right, it won't be pretty
but sometimes things suck so much that an occasional laugh helps people cope
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:02 AM
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11. That I agree.
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ehrnst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:43 AM
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8. Well, they're the ones wanting to investigate miscarriages... (nt)
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:52 AM
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9. Uh, the FDA doesn't controll pricing at all.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:57 AM
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10. They approved the high-priced version
so they should be held accountable, eh?
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:02 AM
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12. They approved the drug. It costs the company no more to make now that it is approved than
it did before. The cost the company put on it is so they can 'market it' and reap huge profits in the 'free market'. KV should be held accountable for their greed.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:12 AM
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13. Well then, let the arrests begin!
I can hardly wait to see KV executives marching off to jail on felony charges in Missouri. :sarcasm:

:popcorn:
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