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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 03:52 PM
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Economy better under Dems. Show this to repukes & they refuse to believe it.
Edited on Wed Mar-09-11 03:54 PM by Elwood P Dowd
http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/gop-economy-does-better-under-dems

The verdict on President Bush's reign of ruin was pronounced even before Barack Obama took the oath of office. January 9, 2009, the Republican-friendly Wall Street Journal summed it up with an article titled simply, "Bush on Jobs: the Worst Track Record on Record." Just days after the Washington Post documented that George W. Bush presided over the worst eight-year economic performance in the modern American presidency, the New York Times on January 24 featured an analysis ("Economic Setbacks That Define the Bush Years") comparing presidential performance going back to Eisenhower. As the Times showed, George W. Bush, the first MBA president, was a historic failure when it came to expanding GDP, producing jobs and fueling stock market growth.

But it was the release of a Census Bureau report in September ("Income, Poverty, and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2008") which in 67 pages laid bare the economic devastation and human toll during the Bush presidency. As The Atlantic ("Closing The Book On The Bush Legacy") rightly noted, "It's not a record many Republicans are likely to point to with pride":

On every major measurement, the Census Bureau report shows that the country lost ground during Bush's two terms. While Bush was in office, the median household income declined, poverty increased, childhood poverty increased even more, and the number of Americans without health insurance spiked. By contrast, the country's condition improved on each of those measures during Bill Clinton's two terms, often substantially.

The table above (via The Reaction) provides a horrifying snapshot of the scope of the national calamity under George W. Bush. The extent of the failure by Jeb's brother was particularly glaring when it came to employment and job creation.

The dismal 3 million jobs created under President Bush didn't merely pale in comparison to the 23 million produced during Bill Clinton's tenure. As noted above, the reliably Republican Wall Street Journal offered an interactive table to illustrate "Bush on Jobs: The Worst Track Record on Record." In September 2009, the Congressional Joint Economic Committee charted Bush's job creation disaster, the worst since Hoover:

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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 03:54 PM
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1. Because they refuse to believe facts you can't ever have a useful discussion with them
So what do we fight them with?
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 03:57 PM
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2. Ask them, under which 2 republican presidents did private jobs increase in last 100yrs
...if they're honest but if they're ignorant of the fact that there aren't 2 republican presidents in last 100yrs where this has happened they'll name off some just keep sayin nope till they get it.
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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 05:29 PM
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6. Um....
BLS data: Private sector jobs created (Using percentage of population to eliminate the effect of population increase):

Harry S. Truman (Democrat): increase of 2.95 percent a year
Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican): increase of 0.50 percent a year
John F. Kennedy (Democrat): increase of 2.03 percent a year
Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat): increase of 3.88 percent a year
Richard M. Nixon (Republican): increase of 2.16 percent a year
Gerald R. Ford (Republican): increase of 0.86 percent a year
Jimmy Carter (Democrat): increase of 3.45 percent a year
Ronald Reagan (Republican): increase of 2.46 percent a year
George H.W. Bush (Republican): increase of 0.40 percent a year
Bill Clinton (Democrat): increase of 2.86 percent a year
George W. Bush (Republican): increase of 0.01 percent a year

So Ike, Nixon, Ford, Reagan and HW Bush all increased private sector jobs, and that's only going back about 70 years.

Now, the Democrats did much better than the Republicans. So I'd recommend going with that instead of claiming no Republicans added private sector jobs.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 04:00 PM
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3. The response is predictable
"Oh, well, see, that's because all those good Republican presidents were spending their time fixing all the horrible things the Democrats did. Things didn't get back to good old all-American normal until they left office, at which time their Democrat successor reaped the benefit of their sterling economic policies."

Sun rises in east. Water is wet. Nothing ever the fault of Republicans. Some things are just axiomatic.
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Ratty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 04:38 PM
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4. It's the lag you see
The policies of the Republican governments take time to trickle down and arrive in time for the Democratic governments to take credit for them. Weird about how this lag sometimes takes 4 or 8 years, sometimes 16 - it always seems to last just until the Republicans step down and the Dems take over. Naturally the reverse is true. No matter how long Democrats hold power, the disastrous results of their tax and spend free-wheeling ways never quite arrive until the Republicans step in.
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dtotire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 04:39 PM
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5. Check out this article from Wikipedia
The entry for Obama only goes to Feb 2011. Jobs have been created since then.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms
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