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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 03:35 PM Original message |
President Obama issues corrections to the US Constitution's Bill of Rights: |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. I hope you didn't spend very long putting that together. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 03:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yeah, when you state you can hold people for an indefinite period of time... |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:42 AM Response to Reply #2 |
93. Where did this inane notion originate - |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #93 |
144. Correct. It says "persons." Setting aside how depsicable it would be to deny HUMAN rights to anyone. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:01 AM Response to Reply #2 |
133. The Geneva conventions have a lot of other provisions that apply that you did not cite. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 03:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. So you don't think the Constitution of the United States should be posted on DU when it conflicts |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 03:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Pfc Bradley Manning |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
37. Exposing crimes is not criminal. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. I know that, you know that - but some here don't |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 03:11 AM Response to Reply #37 |
100. Thank you. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. Post what you want. But expect to be called on it when your post is ridiculous. |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. The only ridiculous post in this thread is your own. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 09:09 PM Response to Reply #23 |
74. "Your mother went to college!" |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. To be honest, it's not that ridiculous. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 05:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #18 |
40. What is ridiculous about the post? I am curious.. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 09:11 PM Response to Reply #40 |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 08:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
71. ??? |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 09:13 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. Putting "nt" in the text box? |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 10:50 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. I know. |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:40 AM Response to Reply #18 |
103. you haven't made a point yet. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:23 AM Response to Reply #3 |
135. LOL...People unreccing The Constitution on DU... |
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Wind Dancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #135 |
136. It really makes you wonder.... |
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They_Live (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:12 PM Response to Reply #135 |
162. That's a very powerful image |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 03:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. You don't think the president should uphold the bill of rights? |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Ya needs a little bi-partisan flexibility on it. It just a general suggestion on a piece of paper. |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:47 AM Response to Reply #10 |
97. So it's more a "Bill of Recommendations" and a "Suggestitution of the United States? |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 07:57 AM Response to Reply #97 |
110. THIS needs to be a seperate thread. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. Yep. That's exactly what I said, isn't it. Old Pickles "do what you fuckin' want" is current policy. |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Seems the whole point of the OP went right over your head. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 09:17 PM Response to Reply #25 |
79. Oh, yeah. The OP was SO fucking deep, that I just can't think hard enough to figure it out. |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:43 AM Response to Reply #79 |
104. apparently, you can't think hard enough to make a point. |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Only took me a nano-sec. to rec. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Looks like we cancel each other out. |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
41. But you didn't cancel out MY rec... |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 05:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
48. I got you on this. But you know we'll be outnumbered |
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louslobbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 05:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
51. Nope, I cancelled you out as well. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 06:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
63. Well, here's another rec for the Constitution |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 08:27 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. And another right here. |
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ReggieVeggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 08:31 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. and another |
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Shadowflash (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:47 AM Response to Reply #68 |
119. Another! |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:30 AM Response to Reply #63 |
137. And another rec from me. |
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Plucketeer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #137 |
157. And yet another! nt |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
80. Nope, another rec from me. |
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BobbyBoring (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #80 |
167. +1 |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 08:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
69. Praise the Leader! nt |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 11:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
82. I'll admit that it was put together in an inflammatory manner, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Shyeah! |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Yeah. If w didn't believe in the Constitution, why should we? |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
11. bush said it was just a piece of paper |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
13. President Obama is the Harvard trained expert on Consitutional law. So he should be the decider! |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 03:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. That's what's so scary. |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
176. Another good point. |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 08:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
73. God knows anybody of moral legal fiber that he brought with him in OLC has long departed. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:54 AM Response to Reply #13 |
105. heh. |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
14. For some reason the line from True Lies comes to mind |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
15. The fine print says, "Political expediency overrides all of the above." |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
16. K&R (only took half a second) |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
21. K&Rec. To counter those who couldn't give a whit about the constitution. |
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libmom74 (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. But |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. Exactly right |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:36 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. My bad. |
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libmom74 (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
46. I didn't think I |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. I didn't think I needed that thingy either. NT |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 05:14 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. I didn't mean to be so brief before. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:57 AM Response to Reply #22 |
106. DINO, appears too be the case. Where is that WH memo? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
24. "The president and the secretary of defense also reiterated the importance |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Who signed the ban on funding for transferring the detainees in to law? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. The |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:29 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Is Obama forced to sign something just because it gets 68 votes? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. No, and I repeat: |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Ok, so a veto threat would just be symbolic so you don't think it was even worth it. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. " Did he do anything else to try and pressure congress not to pass this provision?" |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #42 |
56. I did. The answer is no. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:59 AM Response to Reply #56 |
86. Yes We Can... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:43 AM Response to Reply #56 |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. The President's position is that he can detain people indefinitely, yes? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:03 AM Response to Reply #43 |
123. The President's position is that Congress has forbidden him... |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:10 AM Response to Reply #123 |
125. Well one of his options was not to piss on the Constitution which he just did.. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:12 AM Response to Reply #125 |
126. So, you can't come up with an option either? |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #126 |
129. Congress wouldn't let him close Gitmo (not quite true) and wouldn't let him move them (not... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #129 |
130. "Plenty of options"? Name one |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #130 |
132. Option One: Not shredding the constitution. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:03 AM Response to Reply #132 |
134. What is your specific idea? |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #134 |
139. Try them for their crimes as per international law. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:40 AM Response to Reply #139 |
141. OK, that's why they're restarting military commissions at GTMO |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:22 PM Response to Reply #141 |
151. Those commissions are nothing more than jumped-up kangoroo courts... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #151 |
155. Yes, the bullshit allowed under International law does suck |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #155 |
159. The kangaroo trials have nothing to do with international law. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #134 |
146. Turn them over to the Hague. If they really are international criminals |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #146 |
150. Congress forbade that. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #150 |
161. Congress (unconstitutionally) forbade them being tried in Federal courts, |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 02:41 PM Response to Reply #129 |
166. Thank you. It's a bit tiresome hearing how powerless the President of the United States is. |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 08:39 PM Response to Reply #34 |
70. I don't go in much for Alternate History stories. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:41 AM Response to Reply #34 |
92. A veto would have meant something to me. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
145. But it would mean a LOT to the citizens who hope he's still on their side. |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
148. It would have meant something to me. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:41 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Alright, here's what happened: |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Yeah, they want them tried in court until they get the result they want... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:21 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. The |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Yes, I do as well. |
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Mattylock (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #24 |
120. Thanks for providing the rest of the story. |
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VoteProgressive (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
39. There is an average of one person a year taken off Death row because of new... |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
44. Are the Gitmo bums classified as criminals? |
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xocet (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. ... |
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Modern_Matthew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
50. RECC'D! More threads like this, please. nt |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
52. As usual, blaming the wrong person |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. You mean democrats like Harry Reid? And again. Obama could have used his veto power |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 06:05 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. No, the bill passed with a veto-proof majority. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 06:10 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Here is his choice: |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 07:24 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. That's not his choice. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #65 |
138. Finally, some sanity in this thread... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:11 PM Response to Reply #65 |
147. He's CIC. He can order the use of military funds to transfer them to Leavenworth. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #147 |
168. No, he can't |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 06:11 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Just because something has 68 votes doesn't mean Obama has to sign it |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 07:27 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Centrists start the ball rolling |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 09:17 PM Response to Reply #66 |
78. we are talking about 90 to 6. Those centrists must be really powerful |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #78 |
170. Perhaps re-reading my post would help. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:22 PM Response to Reply #66 |
152. "A veto would literally do nothing." |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #152 |
172. You seem to be forgetting the polling at the time |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:41 PM Response to Reply #172 |
175. To solve it, you need to make it a problem for the people in Congress. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #175 |
178. No, Obama isn't relevant here |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
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Skeeve (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
57. Rec #33 n/t |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
59. Add in King's Muslim hearings and there is an ominous tone |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
60. Sometimes you get what you vote for, most often much less than you expected! nt |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
72. Obviously you weren't paying attention during the campaign... |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Neither were those legal sharpshooters like Greg Craig, Phil Carter, Marty Lederman |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
83. K&R. nt |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
84. How can anyone stand for this evisceration of our rights? Disgusting. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
85. Are the people held at GITMO US citizens? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:04 AM Response to Reply #85 |
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JustinL (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:36 AM Response to Reply #85 |
90. sorry, non-citzens also have constitutional rights |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:39 AM Response to Reply #85 |
91. Wow. You thought that non-US citizens have no rights? Just wow... |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:43 AM Response to Reply #85 |
95. Seriously? Ok then. Nothing to see here I guess. Thanks for you settling that. |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 02:00 AM Response to Reply #85 |
98. Better check with the SCOTUS on that |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:00 AM Response to Reply #85 |
115. The US Constitution doesn't govern individual private citizens, it is the government's law. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #85 |
128. A) We don't know who's there |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:33 PM Response to Reply #128 |
156. Actually, the "cases arising from land and naval forces" and "war or time of public danger" clause |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #156 |
158. There's definitely precedent for summary execution |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #158 |
160. There's precedent for hanging people who steal a loaf of bread - |
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BobbyBoring (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #128 |
169. And |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #85 |
153. If they are within US jurisdiction the Bill of Rights does apply to them. |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #85 |
165. Wrong. "Persons," not citizens. Case closed. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
96. In the future...... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 02:50 AM Response to Original message |
99. Thanks for your post, originalpckelly |
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sce56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 04:59 AM Response to Original message |
101. K&R, Even Matt Damon agrees, The President has let us all down! |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 07:07 AM Response to Reply #101 |
108. I'm with Matt Damon. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:14 AM Response to Original message |
102. K&R |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 07:04 AM Response to Original message |
107. Oh, cmon! It's not like he was a constitutional law instructor or anything... |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
109. Another rec for the constitution. Sorry but Obama does not get to pick |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 08:12 AM Response to Reply #109 |
111. The evidence strongly suggests that you are wrong. |
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VoteProgressive (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
112. This is a horrible move by Obama. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:02 AM Response to Reply #112 |
122. OK, what should he do? |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #122 |
140. I agree with you. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #140 |
142. OK, what should he do? |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #142 |
163. He has the option of signing statements, for one. He's used them before |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:04 PM Response to Reply #163 |
173. So....the plan is for Obama to violate the Constitution....great idea. (nt) |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:30 PM Response to Reply #173 |
174. Presidents have used them since James Monroe. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #174 |
179. So you want Obama to act like Bush |
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Buddha2B (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
113. K&R |
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pecwae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
114. Kick & rec. |
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Poboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
116. R'd |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
117. Thank you originalpckelly! |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
118. "except in cases arising in the land or naval forces..." (nt) |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 09:58 AM Response to Reply #118 |
121. Are you capable of reading? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:14 AM Response to Reply #121 |
127. Yes, in particular |
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blackspade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
124. K&R for a great post. |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
131. Well, you know. Sleeping/standing naked is actually for his protection. |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #131 |
143. But only at night. The other 16 hours he's magically ok. |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #143 |
154. Pfizer probably has a new pill that works for 16 hours. |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 03:42 PM Response to Reply #143 |
171. Swine military "justice" system. I bet the Menendez brothers get a good night's sleep. nt |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
149. Need I also mention the ad hoc annulment of the Fourth and First Amendments, |
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GeorgiaPeach (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
164. K&R |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
177. I have a feeling |
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