Thinking about Wisconsin...

[MineralMan]

Media coverage of the protests, etc. in Wisconsin is winding down fast. The news cycle has moved on to other things, thanks to our collective short attention span. Almost certainly, the Republicans will manage to pass the bill that started all this. I don't think that's going to change. So, what's next?

What's next is for the people of Wisconsin to follow through with their disgust with the Republicans and get those recall petitions signed and at least some of the Republicans removed from office. Then, when others are eligible for recall, recall them, too. Wisconsin made a bad mistake in electing these Republicans. The over-reaching of those very Republicans and the protests against the bill have woken up Wisconsinites. Now, they have an excellent opportunity to use the system there to correct their error.

If they do, and I think they will, it should send a clear message to other Republicans who believe they can enact reactionary legislation in other states with impunity. Wisconsin borders my state, so I have a strong interest in what is happening there. Like Wisconsin, Minnesotans elected Republican majorities in both houses of our legislature. Unlike Wisconsin, though, we managed to elect a Democrat as Governor. Right now, legislation is being pushed through our legislature that attempts to turn back the clock on things like abortion rights, public employee compensation and benefits and much more. Our new governor will probably veto most of that stuff, unlike in Wisconsin.

Other states did similar things in the 2010 election. We need to make sure that Wisconsin's message is clear and well-heard. All support we can give to the Wisconsin recall efforts will help assure that the message is sent.

[TBF]

1. I'd prefer a strike to shut the state down, but will K&R the recall efforts as well. nt

[MineralMan]

2. I really don't think a general strike is in the cards, to be honest.

The recall campaign, though, is sure to take place. We all need it to succeed.

[TBF]

4. Piggly Wiggly -

Here is another thread about it that I just saw: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=579020&mesg_id=579020

Seems like others are thinking about this as well.

[MineralMan]

6. Thanks. I saw that thread earlier.

I hope the feelings continue to be strong and grow stronger.

[elocs]

3. I doubt if a strike will shut the state down, but maybe it would be good to ask what people here

in WI prefer. There was another thread on DU today about how Wisconsin should be boycotted. What an insane idea that is after we have put tens of thousands of people protesting at our state capitol for weeks as well as supportive demonstrations in cities around the state.

Public opinion is already strongly with the unions' call to keep collective bargaining and for Walker to negotiate. The question is whether a strike would help or hurt the cause. Living here in Wisconsin my guess is that a strike would swing public opinion against the unions.

Recalls are probably our best hope here now and I signed the petition to recall my Republican state senator Dan Kapanke.

[TBF]

5. Good comment -

I'm away now so I only hear what my friends/family talk about - and of course "strike" comes to my mind but I know they are focused on recall efforts. When I was growing up there in the 70's the unions were so strong (especially in the paper plants), but I really don't know what the atmosphere is like now.

[Scuba]

7. Thanks for your sane comments. Let's keep protesting and working on the recalls.

[socialist_n_TN]

9. Do both. Shut it down AND use that time to demonstrate.........

AND pass around recall petitions.

[elocs]

11. Living here in WI I will give you a clue: a general strike will NOT shut down the state,

but it would quite likely turn public opinion against us and public opinion is strongly in our favor now.

[MineralMan]

14. Thanks. That's my sense of it, too.

But I'm in Minnesota, and don't spend much time in Wisconsin, so I can't speak directly about that state's voters.

[BeFree]

8. Unrec

Because there was not one mention of the hacked vote count.

And don't even f'n tell me that you can prove the vote wasn't hacked.
In fact, the fact the pukes have power is evidence the vote has been hacked, right?

[MineralMan]

10. OK. Thanks for reading the thread.

I have no intention of telling you anything. Have a nice day.

[BeFree]

12. Have a nice day?

I bring to your attention that the vote has been hacked, and all you can say is have a nice day?

I don't get it. The pukes have power via the hacked vote, yes? No?
Lets discuss this most important issue, if you want.

[MineralMan]

13. That's your issue, not mine. You could start another thread to

discuss it. My interest here is to stimulate support for the recall efforts in Wisconsin. And, yes, I hope you have a nice day.

Start a thread and present your evidence. I'll read it. I'm already aware that you think elections are hacked all over this country. Show your evidence in Wisconsin in 2010, but it's a subject worthy of a new thread. This one's not about that election.

[BeFree]

15. Recall will be counted via what?

The hacked voting machines, right?