Do You Consider Jeb Bush a Champion of Education Reform?

[tekisui]

[LWolf]

1. Where's the HELL NO option? nt

[demmiblue]

2. No

[HopeHoops]

3. FUCK no!

[Horse with no Name]

7. That was the response I was looking for too. n/t

[LaurenG]

4. Where is the laughing out loud this is just a joke option?

I voted no...

[Arctic Dave]

5. A big YES. But not in the good way, more in the pirate way.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

19. Agreed.

[tekisui]

6. Would those voting yes care to provide examples?

[Octafish]

8. I consider Jeb Bush an unindicted co-conspirator.

http://www.whoseflorida.com/10_reasons_not_to_vote_for_jeb_b.htm">10 Reasons Not to Vote for Jeb Bush in 2002

BY ROCHELLE RENFORD

Make no mistake. Americans do love their royalty. Our founding fathers may have given the finger to the royals in England, but generations later the monarchy still rules. The lack of an official king and queen has only allowed the American public to anoint several unofficial royal lines instead. As much as Americans extol the virtues of hard work, most of us probably would have preferred the silver spoon route. Work is fine, but really, wasn't leaving the womb hard enough? For some lucky sperm, the birth canal is the last tight spot they'll have to find their way out of. Like the Kennedys and the Rockefellers, the Bush clan is a monument to unearned privilege and power, but they've distinguished themselves with their capacity for denial.

Gov. Jeb Bush has said that after college, he was on his own financially and made his own way through his own hard work. So what if that "hard work" was for his father's campaign, and for corporations run by his father's friends. While working at IntrAmerica Investments, a real estate development firm owned by Bush Sr. supporter Armando Codina, Bush's salary jumped six figures in about six years. He has said his family name wasn't an advantage but spent much of his career wooing clients who wanted to get next to his family. He was cut in on investment deals, even though he didn't actually have any cash to invest, and he walked away from scandals involving attempts to defraud the U.S. government, claiming that he wasn't a fraud but a dupe. Only he knows which is true, but it's clear that if he hadn't used his family connections to do favors for his wealthy comrades, some of the scandals wouldn't have happened. When developer Hiram Martinez Jr. requested $18-million in federal loan insurance for an apartment development in 1985, the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development questioned its land value and delayed the request. Rather than allow HUD to do its job, Bush wrote a letter to the U.S. agency's undersecretary on Martinez's behalf. The loan was approved, the land values were inflated and Martinez got six years in prison on fraud charges. Bush has amnesia about the letter. Later he made a call to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services to help another associate looking to get out of following some pesky federal rules.

Bush denies that he received special treatment in both of those incidents, but any citizen who's dealt with either agency knows that's not true. It's pretty damn special to have a top manager take your call, instead of getting a clerk who transfers your call or tells you to fill out forms.

It's his denial that makes Bush an ineffective governor. It's not possible to see why minorities would need affirmative action when you refuse to see that alumni and legacy admissions are a form of affirmative action too. It's easy to focus on punishment rather than rehabilitation when you've never had to be accountable for your own questionable dealings. Recognizing every citizen's right to vote is harder when you really believe that the only rights that count are yours.

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[Katarina]

9. No

Not in a million years would that be what I considered him. :mad:

[Better Believe It]

10. About as much as I consider George W. Bush to be a man of peace,

[bullimiami]

11. WHAT A JOKE.

His idea of education reform is rigging the system so his cronies can make a buck off of it.

Its a family effort. W, Jeb, Neil.

Neil Bush. Ignite. Government contracts.

They could give half a shit about the kids they leave behind.

People who run in their circles dont need public or even reasonably priced education.

[demmiblue]

13. Barbara, don't forget Barbara! Remember this one:

Former first lady Barbara Bush donated an undisclosed amount of money to the Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund with specific instructions that the money be spent with an educational software company owned by her son Neil.

Since then, the Ignite Learning program has been given to eight area schools that took in substantial numbers of Hurricane Katrina evacuees.

"Mrs. Bush wanted to do something specifically for education and specifically for the thousands of students flooding into the Houston schools," said Jean Becker, former President Bush's chief of staff. "She knew that HISD was using this software program, and she's very excited about this program, so she wanted to make it possible for them to expand the use of this program."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/3742329.html

:puke:

[no_hypocrisy]

12. Yeah, the wrong kind of "reform" which is essentially deconstructionist.

[Tikki]

14. And I'm sure bush is still trying to continue to hock that

quasi-educational software his mom and other brother cooked up as
a tax right-off?


Tikki

[Bardley]

15. who gave his father the medal of freedom?

why is anyone surprised by this?

for that matter, I saw his position on H-1b is 2007, and nothing has surprised me ever since

[Rowdyboy]

16. Other....Only if you define "champion" as "worst enemy possible"

Maybe then

[ensho]

17. Jeb champions money flowing into his own pocket any way he can scam

it

[Ichingcarpenter]

18. I needed a roll on the floor laughing out loud shit now catagory

So I just voted No

[LiberalFighter]

20. Just because Obama is President does not mean he has good judgement about everything.

Education is one of his flaws. He appointed Arne Duncan and supports Jeb's education model.

[Overseas]

21. If by Reform you mean Privatize into the hands of Republican friends

then yes.

[prairierose]

22. I'm sure he is still supporting brother Neil's software...

company that sells supposed "educational programs".

[liberalhistorian]

23. Does HELL FUCKING NO

count as an option, because that doesn't even begin to cover it.

[PBS Poll-435]

24. What is with the flamebait?

Does anyone know how this fucking government works? Like anything Jebby says or does is going to have an impact on a national level.

[Octafish]

28. What's with people voting 'Yes'?

They must not know the Jebthro back-story: The Bush dynasty and the Cuban criminals.

[tekisui]

29. Not flame bait. Is Jeb a champion of education reform in your opinion or not?

Simple question.

[bigwillq]

25. No (nt)

[Dappleganger]

26. Aw hell to the no.

And FUCK those asswipes who voted yes!

[Snoutport]

27. NO! But now the RW thinks Obama and Jeb are on the same page

And suddenly Obama is praising another Republican for their work.

First Romney on his health care...
now Jeb on his education work...

Posining the well?

[treestar]

30. I really don't know.

I can keep an open mind until I have facts. I do know I will not prejudge him due to his last name and relatives.

[eilen]

31. Shouldn't there be a pants option?

As "Jeb Bush couldn't find decent educational reform if it was in his pants"

Or "Obama couldn't recognize a champion of education reform if they were in his pants."

Or trade the word "Reform" with "Deform" and you would have a true sentence.

[bvar22]

32. Voted NO, and even gave your poll a rec!

:patriot: