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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:32 PM
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Arizona GOP Bill Would Let Brewer Create An Armed Militia For Whatever She
Arizona GOP Bill Would Let Gov. Brewer Create An Armed Militia For Whatever She ‘Considers Necessary’
http://thinkprogress.org/2011/03/04/brewer-militia/

Arizona’s GOP-run legislature has taken to marginalizing and villainizing the immigrant population with zeal — be it through SB 1070, HB 2191, or SB 1070 “on steroids.” Now, the Pheonix New Times reports that state Sen. Sylvia Allen (R-AZ) is pushing a bill to give Gov. Jan Brewer (R-AZ) a “blank check to establish a ‘state guard’ that would do her bidding, whatever that bidding might be.”
(http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2011/03/jan_brewers_fbi_jt_ready_shawna_forde.php)

Allen’s SB 1495 not only establishes a “state guard” independent of the national guard and finances that guard with national guard funding, but it allows Brewer to created this “Armed force” for “any [] reason the governor considers to be necessary”:

(snip)
A. If the national guard of Arizona or a major portion thereof is called into active federal service, or if the national guard or a major portion thereof is alerted for federal service or for any other reason the governor considers to be necessary, the governor may establish an armed force for the safety and protection of the lives and property of the citizens of the state which shall be known as the Arizona state guard.

B. The Arizona state guard shall insofar as practicable be governed by and subject to the laws of the state pertaining to the national guard. The governor shall issue or cause to be issued rules and regulations to govern administration and organization of the state guard.

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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:36 PM
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1. So when she tryings to take over the Arizona government with force
during the next election, will we get to see just what the punishment for treason really is?
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:55 PM
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11. She'll have to do it before the next election
According to Arizona's Constitution she's done with this term...unless the Arizonazi's take the next step and attempt to change the Constitution.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 05:00 PM
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15. Thats why its going to be right before the next election
because she won't give up power.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:37 PM
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2. Brown Shirts
Or is it still too early to start making the comparisons????
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:40 PM
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7. It's later than most of us think. nt
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:41 PM
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9. Careful there, though I much prefer Black Shirts
that said a few will come and kindly correct you.

:hi:
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Skip_In_Boulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:38 PM
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3. Fascist regimes usually do try to establish their own Praetorian Guard n/t
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:39 PM
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4. So when is the coronation of Queen Jan? n/t
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:39 PM
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5. Her own personal army, funded by taxpayers
Edited on Fri Mar-04-11 04:45 PM by somone
How nice. What a witch.

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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 05:46 PM
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22. Why did she steal Gary Busey's teeth, Mommy?
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:39 PM
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6. $%^&^%$#@*&() her and the broom she rode in here on!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:40 PM
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8. Lemme see the last time this was done
it was called the Army of Northern Virginia... the are not even hiding it any more. So governor, when are you seceding from the Union? You and Perry seem to be going that way. He at least said it.
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Gaedel Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:48 PM
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10. State Guard
Most states have provisions for a "state guard" of some sort. In some states, the state guard performs unpaid drills. In other states, there are just provisions for a "state guard" on the books.

The purpose of the state guard is to provide the governor with a military force if and when the National Guard is federalized. During WWII, the various state guards were all active 9consisting of the elderly and the very young. Somewhere I have a picture of the Michigan State Guard drilling at a National Guard armory during WWII.

In Virginia, in the early 1980s, I was familiar with a state guard unit which drilled one Saturday a month. It consisted of ex-NG officers who had become over age in grade and some overwieght and pimply teenagers. Their wartime mission? To sign for and take custody of the national Guard armory when the NG when off to fight the Rooskies.



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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:58 PM
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13. SSSH! You're interrupting the hysteria with facts, ya killjoy!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Defense_Forces

State Defense Forces
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

State Defense Forces (SDF) (also known as State Guards, State Military Reserves, or State Militias) in the United States are military units that operate under the sole authority of a state government; they are not regulated by the National Guard Bureau nor are they part of the Army National Guard of the United States.<1> State Defense Forces are authorized by state and federal law and are under the command of the governor of each state.

State Defense Forces are distinct from their state's National Guard in that they cannot become federal entities (all National Guard units can be federalized under the Militia Act of 1903 with the creation of the National Guard of the United States). The federal government recognizes State Defense Forces under 32 U.S.C. § 109 which provides that State Defense Forces as a whole may not be called, ordered, or drafted into the Armed Forces of the United States, thus preserving their separation from the National Guard. However, under the same law, individual members serving in the State Defense Force are not exempt from service in the Armed Forces (e.g., draft). NGR 10-4 <4> further states: "State regulations should provide for immediate discharge of SDF members who have been appointed, inducted, enlisted, ordered, or called in the Armed forces of the U.S., or a Reserve component thereof."

Nearly every state has laws authorizing State Defense Forces, and 22 states, plus Puerto Rico, have active SDFs with different levels of activity, support, and strength. State Defense Forces generally operate with emergency management and homeland security missions. Most SDFs are organized as Army units, but Air and Naval units also exist....
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 05:01 PM
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17. So please explain
Which of these reason are they using?

"...emergency management and homeland security missions."
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 05:07 PM
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19. I'm not the one claiming the AZ State Guard will be Brewer's Praetorians.
Those making a claim have the onus to provide the evidence for said claim.
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Maine_Nurse Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 05:11 PM
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20. Lost cause. We bitch about "brainwashed repugs", yet we are nearly as bad. nt
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:59 PM
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14. While true
The reality is that isn't the intent here...they are planning to use taxpayer dollars to create a "Praetorian Guard" for Brewer...and possibly use federal money that is slated for the Arizona National Guard.

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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 05:04 PM
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18. Cite to evidence, please. Has any other governor used their state guard in such a manner?
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Gaedel Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 05:15 PM
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21. No federal money
Edited on Fri Mar-04-11 05:17 PM by Gaedel
The federal laws pertaining to federal funding for the national guard are very, very explicit. You mess with that money and you go to jail. Back in 1962, I used a national guard code to issue parts to a reserve unit and I thought Leavenworth was the next stop after I got chewed out by just about every officer senior to me at Camp Pickett.

Unless the state constitution or law forbids it, there is no legal bar to using state money to fund a state guard.

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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:57 PM
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12. Maybe she's looking across the border to Mexico and wants to be a warlord, too.
Or is afraid of becoming another Gov. Walker, besieged by masses and unable to rely on police or national guard.
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 05:00 PM
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16. I like how you refuse to let reality cramp your style.
Party on!
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