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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 02:58 PM
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T-O-R-T-U-R-E --- PFC Manning was forced to strip naked in his cell AGAIN last night.
Edited on Fri Mar-04-11 03:07 PM by kpete
04 March 2011
PFC Manning Stripped Naked Again
PFC Manning was forced to strip naked in his cell again last night. As with the previous evening, Quantico Brig guards required him to surrender all of his clothing. PFC Manning then walked back to his bed, and spent the next seven hours in humiliation.

The decision to require him to be stripped of all clothing was made by the Brig commander, Chief Warrant Officer-2 Denise Barnes. According to First Lieutenant Brian Villard, a Marine spokesman, the decision was "not punitive" and done in accordance with Brig rules. There can be no conceivable justification for requiring a soldier to surrender all his clothing, remain naked in his cell for seven hours, and then stand at attention the subsequent morning. This treatment is even more degrading considering that PFC Manning is being monitored -- both by direct observation and by video -- at all times. The defense was informed by Brig officials that the decision to strip PFC Manning of all his clothing was made without consulting any of the Brig's mental health providers.

On Wednesday, the government filed its response to the defense's Article 138 complaint concerning PFC Manning's confinement conditions. The preliminary decision made by the government was to deny PFC Manning's request to be removed from Maximum custody and from Prevention of Injury (POI) watch. The defense now has ten days to file a rebuttal to this determination. After submitting the rebuttal, the matter will go back to the Quantico Base Commander, Colonel Daniel J. Choike, for his review. Once complete, he will forward the report to the Secretary of the Navy for final review.

http://www.armycourtmartialdefense.info/2011/03/pfc-manning-stripped-naked-again.html

This was all just as promised; Coombs noted yesterday that Manning was informed he would continue to be stripped of his clothes and humliated before he goes to bed. Jeff Kaye, a psychologist specializing in torture victims, wrote last night:

Alert commenter Mad Dog noticed this important part of David Coombs’ article, chilling in its open avowal of continuing abuse. Referring to the imposition of forced nakedness, Coombs reports that “PFC Manning has been told that the same thing will happen to him again tonight.” Meanwhile, Trudy B. has sent me a link to a Kate Zernike and David Rohde’s June 2004 piece in the New York Times, on the “pervasive pattern” of forced nakedness at Abu Ghraib, at Guantanamo and elsewhere.

It got so bad at Abu Ghraib that in October 2003, Zernike and Rohde wrote that “Red Cross monitors were so alarmed by the number of nude detainees that they halted their visit and demanded an immediate explanation. ‘The military intelligence officer in charge of the interrogation explained that this practice was “part of the process,”‘ the Red Cross wrote in a report in February.”

I guess that’s the case now at Quantico. “Part of the process” is what torture has now come down to, embraced on U.S. soil against an American citizen.


http://my.firedoglake.com/valtin/2011/03/03/bradley-manning-forced-to-strip-naked-for-seven-hours/

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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:00 PM
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1. According to some here, that's not torture.
That's what he gets, you see. Oh and the President doesn't have any power to say how any prisoners should be treated by our military. That "Commander in Chief" name plate is just for show.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:05 PM
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6. And, they're doing it for his own good.
:puke:
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:06 PM
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12. Clearly they are worried about the lad's well being. He may try to hang himself with his underpants
better safe than sorry.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:02 PM
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2. Where's the Commander in Chief on this? Is he okay with it? nt
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:03 PM
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3. He's just fine with torture.

Pom-pomed deniers notwithstanding.

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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:05 PM
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7. Dn't Bother Him He's Out Smoozong with Jebbie Clampitt
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 10:07 PM
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24. We all know damned well that Obama is fine with torture.
:grr:
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:03 PM
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4. +1000 ........ and it is torture
This is on Obama.

This is the price we pay when we have a leader that refuses to hold all individuals responsible for their actions.
No individual is above the law, if one individual is above the law then all individuals are above the law.
And that includes presidents.

We are now a nation without justice. We may have laws but they mean nothing.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:06 PM
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9. "a nation without justice" - Yes, and that may be Obama's legacy...
As much as Reagan's is "a nation of greed" - W's is "a nation of lies" - and Clinton's is "a nation of blowjobs" (ha-ha, just kidding!)
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:05 PM
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5. I wonder if the ratcheting up of the torture isn't a reflection....
... of the fact that the military brass is gradually realizing that the case against him is not so strong as they thought.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:06 PM
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10. They're vitiating their own case. Or they should be
with this behavior.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:07 PM
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13. Getting in their licks now cause they won't get a chance to do it later? n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:44 PM
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20. Remember when we asked, how long before these Abu Ghraib tactics come home?
Here they are.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:05 PM
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8. K&R
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:06 PM
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11. I so...tired.
K&R
I can't even muster enough vile expressions to fit the occasion.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:07 PM
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14. OTOH, Lt. William Calley had to spend one whole weekend in the stockade.
And, served exactly one day in prison.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:12 PM
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15. He only murdered Asians. There's enough of them already in the world.
Manning , otoh, *may* have been involved in something that *may* have resulted in the public identification of CIA "assets" which which then *may* have been publicized by a third party ( media) and who then *may* have been retailated against.

Who? Which assets, exactly?

We can't tell you that. It's classified.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:19 PM
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17. Let's ask Cheney. (nt)
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:18 PM
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16. You know, if that was me, I'd do my best to masturbate in front of those bastards.
Making your captors uncomfortable is the best way to get back at them.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:20 PM
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18. WTF do they want from him?
This is just pure madness!

I once had respect for the US military--dad retired from the USNR and I had an uncle who retired from the Air Force as a general--but no so much anymore.

I wonder what my dad and uncle would think about this if they were both still alive?
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:38 PM
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19. Here's contact info for the base



http://www.quantico.usmc.mil/activities/display.aspx?PID=1687&Section=BaseInfo


Public Affairs Office
Address:
Public Affairs Office
Lejeune Hall, Bldg 3250
MCB Quantico, VA 22134

Phone: (703) 784-2741
Fax:(703)784-0065


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:53 PM
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23. Comment form for DOD
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:44 PM
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21. I'll ask it again: What's next? Dogs? Hooding? Waterboarding?
In not prosecuting anyone in high places, the deciders have ratified everything from abuse and harsh treatment to torture itself.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:49 PM
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22. It is Our Official Obamacare Policy
and they thought we wouldn't notice...

Since when is Wikileaks an "enemy"? Where are the troops ad weapons and the desire to take over?

The whole thing is more BS PhD (piled higher and deeper).
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