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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:00 PM
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The problem isn’t that public-sector workers have too much retirement security.
Edited on Fri Mar-04-11 12:01 PM by Swede
It’s that everyone else has too little.
For private-sector workers, retirement security is unmistakably eroding. The change is rooted in the shift from “defined benefit” pensions, under which employers guarantee their workers a fixed payment after retirement, to “defined contribution” pensions, such as 401(k) plans, under which employers commit only to contributing a fixed amount that employees must invest on their own.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/columns/political-connections/pensions-at-risk-in-both-private-and-public-sectors-20110303
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:01 PM
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1. K&R
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:12 PM
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2. Acquaintances of Mine Are Retiring in Their Mid-50s
The wife is public sector, hubby is private. They delayed telling their friends in their age peer group about it until it was a done deal, fearing backlash.

They lived modestly on their modest income and still live in the house they bought over 20 years ago. Their friends went the other route; made a lot, spent a lot, and have debt up the yin-yang.

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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 02:26 PM
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6. You raise an interesting point. Sometimes the people who retire earliest are those
who prepared to retire at an earlier age.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:14 PM
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3. K&R
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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 01:07 PM
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4. Unions were instituted to bargain for worker benefits.
If you don't have good benefits or good pay you're probably not represented by a union. If you don't like it you can change the status quo if you're willing to get off your asses and do something about it.

Most people would rather whine.

Q3JR4.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 02:17 PM
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5. Today, defined benefit is a detriment to most workers
We do not stay in jobs long enough for defined benefit to kick in. Defined contribution is portable which suit most people these days
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:00 PM
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7. In the words of robber baron Jay Gould
You can always hire one half of the poor to kill the other half.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:45 PM
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8. Right on.
k&r
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