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[jtown1123]

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[MannyGoldstein]

1. Obama designed a commission to attack Social Security

His commission recommends that the average recipients lifetime benefits be cut by more than $50,000.

[Poboy]

2. and just as poster gratuitus has been saying, falsely using the catfood commission

which did not even get consensus, to fig leaf the betrayal and leverage against the American people.

[jtown1123]

4. That commission is a ruse. Set up by Pete Peterson and stacked with

horrifying people like the anti-union Honeycote guy...scary.

[Hubert Flottz]

3. If the government can't afford to honor it's obligations how can it

afford two wars and a Trillion Dollar tax cut extension for the wealthy?

[jtown1123]

5. ding ding ding!

[Vinee]

6. Oh, but the tax cut for millionaires is perfectly affordable.

because millionaires create jobs by taking frequent vacations, moving factory operations to China, and by off-shoring their profits to avoid paying even those reduced taxes on them.

[jtown1123]

7. Yes, I mean it worked so splendidly the last 10 years, let's keep extending it forever!

[dixiegrrrrl]

8. TOLL FREE Capitol Hill Switchboard numbers:

1-888-245-0215,

1-866-277-7617,

1-800 473-6711,

1-800 828-0498,

1-866 338-1015,

or 1-866 220-0044

(Pls. let me know if any of these numbers are not working)

[jtown1123]

9. Thanks!

[woo me with science]

38. Thank you.

All this squabbling is beside the point and only encourages complacency. The danger is real, and we need to speak up now.

[MineralMan]

10. Oddly, your title doesn't seem to reflect the content of the

article. I couldn't find any place in the article when I read the entire thing where President Obama was "responding positively." Perhaps you could point out that part of the article to me. Perhaps I missed it.

[SDuderstadt]

12. Are you trying to...

disrupt their poutrage/rant by insisting on facts?

[jtown1123]

13. Right here...it was inconsistent to say the least, but that's Boehner

Mr. Boehner, an Ohio Republican, said he told President Barack Obama that he would take the political plunge alongside him if the president announced his own willingness to tackle changes to those programs.

"I offered to the president we could lock arms and walk out and begin the conversation about the size of the problem," Mr. Boehner said, adding that Mr. Obama responded "positively."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703752404576178910828355914.html

That's coming from Boehner, but still concerning nonetheless. We need Obama to say, Hell no! Not oh yeahh we'll talk about it (wishy washy)

[dionysus]

18. the very sentence after that orange john criticizes obama for not having a plan to cut the programs.

[SDuderstadt]

21. WTF do you think...

Boehner is going to say??

Duh.

[MineralMan]

29. Boner said...

Boner says lots of things. What did President Obama say? Your headline is misleading.

[dionysus]

14. you have a quote from boehner that obama responded "positively" to starting a "conversation".

then the very next sentence says "he also took aim at Mr. Obama for not proposing a plan to overhaul the programs."

so obama not having a plan to cut these programs this must really mean he secretly, secretly goes tanning with orange john and schemes ways to destroy the middle class and the poor. get with the program, man!

;)

[dionysus]

11. no where in the article does is say "obama responds favorably" to SS cuts.

you've got an article where boehner is acting like an asshole, and you're using it to go after obama. awesome.

you have a quote from boehner that obama responded "positively" to starting a "conversation". then the very next sentence says "he also took aim at Mr. Obama for not proposing a plan to overhaul the programs."

So boehner criticizing obama for not having a plan to cut SS and medicare means obama wants to cut SS and medicare?

:eyes:

[jtown1123]

Yeah, exactly, Boehner wants to propose cuts and Obama responded positively

to discussing this. That is pretty alarming.

[dionysus]

28. so, you expected obama to call him an asshole and refuse to speak to him?

jesus, the melodrama...
:rofl:

[MineralMan]

32. Boner said that the President responded positively to talking.

I guess you somehow believe that Boner and other Republicans don't say untrue things. Your title was deliberately misleading. Shame!

[luvspeas]

20. Now people are believing Boner!!!!

That's just great.

[SDuderstadt]

15. Very misleading subject line...

deplorable.

[ProSense]

16. So people are now promoting Boehner's fantasy?

The article is a Republican press release. The RW media is trying to play Americans.

The Hill published this bullshit last night: Boehner promises Obama GOP cover on entitlement reform

Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) has privately assured President Obama that House Republicans will not attack him if he makes a proposal to reform entitlement spending, according to sources familiar with the offer.

Moreover, Boehner has personally promised Obama that he will stand side-by-side with him to weather the strong political backlash expected from any proposal to cut entitlement costs.

<...>

McCaskill: I Will Vote Against Social Security Cuts

[SidDithers]

17. So, we're talking our cues from what the WSJ reports Boehner says?...nt

Sid

[dionysus]

41. .

:D

[spanone]

19. Obama is about 800% smarter than boner, i'll trust Obama

[jtown1123]

22. There is no "problem." We cannot have Obama responding positively to someone saying there is one

[SDuderstadt]

23. You don't know that he did...

this is reprehensible.

[jtown1123]

27. Reprehensible??!! hahaha

but seriously, Obama has always been "open" to talks with GOP about SS and Medicare. I don't doubt he responded positively to talks.

[SDuderstadt]

30. No one cares what you don't "doubt"...

dude.

You made a statement of fact based upon virtually zero evidence.

[jtown1123]

31. Where did I claim it was a fact? I was quoting an article.

[SDuderstadt]

33. Dude...

look at your subject line. You left out critical information. Smarmy, to say the least.

[dionysus]

39. no, it seems you're deliberately spinning a story to make obama look evil.

it's transparent you know.

[SDuderstadt]

40. And, of course...

the editing period has expired, so the damage is done and persists.

[polmaven]

36. I, too, am open to the president

discussing SS and Medicare wit the GOP. "Lets raise or eliminate the salary cap, Mr. Speaker".

[SidDithers]

24. Why are you responding to yourself?...nt

Sid

[JoePhilly]

25. Probably why Obama announced cut to SS suring the SOTU ...

just as folks here predicted back in January, and then included those in his budget, just as predicted in February.

Oh wait ... neither of those things happened.

Same manufactured outrage, different month.

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[Angry Dragon]

34. PLANS!!

The republicans have no plans nor ideas
They have not had any ideas of how to move this country forward for 40 years.......
They only can look back ..........

[PVnRT]

35. Eh. That's Boehner posturing, most likely.

I imagine "respond positively" could mean anything, or nothing at all. For all we know, Obama not telling him to get the fuck out of the office is "responding positively."

[Doctor_J]

37. Murdoch Journal should NOT be allowed at DU

It is as slanted as Fox

[Raksha]

42. We seem to have posted the same story at more or less the same time.

K&R anyway. I posted mine as "Next year's class warfare battle plan."