Some interesting things to 'be avoided' in the Brigham Young University honor code

[marmar]

Be honest
Live a chaste and virtuous life
Obey the law and all campus policies
Use clean language
Respect others
Abstain from alcoholic beverages, tobacco, tea, coffee, and substance abuse
Participate regularly in church services
Observe the Dress and Grooming Standards
Encourage others in their commitment to comply with the Honor Code

http://saas.byu.edu/catalog/2009-2010ucat/GeneralInfo/HonorCode.php


A soy latte is the juice of the devil !!!!

[dsc]

1. actually that is standard Mormon doctrine

caffiene is considered a drug to be avoided. Mormon's won't drink caffinated beverages.

[fishwax]

8. actually, that's a matter of personal decision

The formal doctrine is against tea and coffee, and while many extend that to any caffeinated beverage that isn't part of the official doctrine.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

2. They're against caffeine. No Coca Cola either.

[Dawson Leery]

3. Stay away from schools with religious affiliations.

Especially the born-again fundies and mormons.

[provis99]

7. A colleague told me his alma mater, Baylor, banned dancing.

Then again, Baylor is mainly white people, so banning dancing might be a good idea.

[poverlay]

10. Lol

[Ilsa]

13. Very true. In the late 1970's, they wouldn't name a course "Aerobic Dance"

They called it Aerobic Movement or something equally stupid. No way would they have a PE course with the word "dance" in it.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

15. Girls at Baylor used to not be allowed to wear slacks or shorts on campus.

My parents were horrified that some of our Baptist relatives sent their kids there.

I went to a Presbyterian school full of educated people and great professors. And nobody told the girls they couldn't wear slacks or shorts on campus.

[provis99]

4. well, that's one university.

meanwhile at Northwestern, they have actual sex demonstrations in the classroom.
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/118221/20110303/chicago-news-fucksaw-human-sexuality-northwestern-university-sex-toys-toy-demo-john-michael-bailey.htm

Morality is an opinion, nothing more.

[backscatter712]

5. Don't forget "Wear your magic underwear!"

I'm so glad I'm not living or going to college in Utah...

[poverlay]

12. Coffee, tea, and soda stains are "hell" to get out of the magic undies. Most religious doctrine was

made before stain sticks and Shout wipes..

[Nikia]

6. It's part of the Mormon religion

Caffeine is considered a drug and something they should not due. I had some Ohioan Mormon friends who saw an offer of cola as a chance to assert their religious beliefs.

[Lyric]

9. Which is strange, because the actual prohibition in Mormonism is against "hot drinks".

It says nothing about caffeine at all, but some Mormons have decided that "hot drinks" translates to "anything with caffeine".

There are other Mormons who take that admonition more literally, and who allow themselves cold soft drinks like colas.

/My Mom was a Mormon for a while in her 20's

Edit: You'll notice that BYU seems to take a neutral approach to that debate, and does not expressly prohibit cold caffeinated drinks--just hot ones like coffee and tea.

[BeeBee]

17. I remember going to a conference at BYU and no where...

on the campus could I find a Diet Coke. Nowadays, I think, they do have caffeine free sodas in their machines.

[zazen]

11. a recovering Mormon friend told me they partied by binging

on chocolate. Someone would make a "chocolate run" and come back with bags and bags of little candies.

When he left the church, he cut up his Mormon underwear and burned it.

[ipfilter]

20. I thought they always burnt their used undergarments

after removing the Masonic like symbols.

[DefenseLawyer]

14. I'd say their goofy "rules" are no more goofy than those of any other religion

Whatever gets you through the night. I would only really be interested in knowing if this "honor code" is enforced equally among all students, and not disproportionately against non-mormon, African American male students that have white girlfriends. I have no idea that that is the case, although I'm fairly certain that the Jim McMahon, the Punky QB himself, violated the honor code every day he was there and seems to have made it through.

[Taverner]

16. The Mormon proviso is against all hot drinks

So Hot Chocolate, chicken soup broth, etc could all be considered Haram (I'm stealing a Muslim term here, but I think it applies)

[lapislzi]

19. Is there a reason behind that?

I'm not denigrating anyone's religion, as deluded as I may find it. Lots of religious rules seem arbitrary until you do a little digging. What's the deal with hot drinks?

[Taverner]

21. Dog only knows...

It was one of Joseph Smith's 'revelations'

A couple more of his 'revelations' were that the Moon is populated by people who look like Quakers, A 50-year-old man can marry a 10-year old girl and that Independence, MO will be the new Jerusalem.

Of course, EVERY religion has a certain amount of goofiness in its dogma somewhere.

[Skidmore]

18. Soy milk is an abomination.

[poverlay]

22. Halleluja Brother/Sister Skidmore! TESTIFY! n/t