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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 10:26 PM
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Now this is conservativism I think we can like around here.
On Rachel Maddow tonight, she talked to two woman senators from Wyoming who voted against a bill that would place very intrusive requirements for doctors in dealing with women who come to them for abortions. The bill was overwhelmingly defeated by an overwhelmingly Republican state senate. They didn't care that the issue was abortion; they just did not want that kind of government intrusion into the doctor's office. For the younger DUers who may not realize it, this is what conservativism used to be decades ago.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 10:32 PM
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1. voting against bills like this should be a logical conclusion for members of the "less gov't" party
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 10:40 PM
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2. Any legitimate small government conservative should be pro-choice
You can still have personal moral objections to abortion, but government should not make laws that infringe upon what a woman does with her own body.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 10:46 PM
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3. they've abandoned conservatism for feudalism
they play to the theocrats for votes that intrude upon others' lives in return for financial policies that destroy those same theocrats...

if the results weren't so horrific, it would be hysterically funny.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 11:17 PM
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4. Until 'Conservatism' was hijacked
Edited on Tue Mar-01-11 11:26 PM by The Doctor.
by fundies and neo-cons.

My parents were Eisenhower Conservatives. They tracked every penny, did their own work (cars/house/whatever) whenever possible, and believed in personal responsibility to a 'T'.

Now they listen to Faux News and Rush Limbaugh, and even they have bought into the twisted new 'conservative' world.

Dwight Eisenhower would not recognize today's 'Conservatives' as anything but selfish low-lives.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 11:21 PM
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5. Like? No. Consider them treasonous, thieving, lying, bigoted, racist, pigheaded crooks? Not so much.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 11:23 PM
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6. I'm sure they are still CONs in another fashion. I never let them slide, especially not for just
one issue. Fuck that!
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 12:05 AM
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7. I was raised to believe that conservatives were a useful balance wheel
My parents fell on the spectrum somewhere between liberal and radical -- but they understood that lefties could get carried away with things that looked good on paper or push for change faster than most people could keep up with. And they valued conservatives for providing a skeptical voice and occasionally giving the nation a little time to slow down and catch its breath.

Trouble is, we don't have that sort of conservatives any more. In the 1960's, the right got a bad case of revolution envy. They wanted to look hip and attract cute girls, and they knew that being cautious and stodgy wouldn't help with either. So they got carried away with the idea of making sweeping, radical, revolutionary changes anywhere they could.

Today's so-called conservatives are still like that. It isn't even about the money for a lot of them -- it's about being as radical as they can get away with. I think that's what's really animating people like Scott Walker. He wants to do something "big" and doesn't much care what the real effect will be.

And it means that us lefties are stuck being the people in sensible shoes who go around saying, "It may sound good on paper but I can't see it working in the real world."

There's something really warped about that. Y'know?

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The Hitman Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 12:10 AM
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8. No.
As far as I am concerned, in this day and age, any politician with an (R) next to his/her name is not someone I can get behind.

Maybe its too much consumerism in society, maybe its my competitive nature. But I can stand the Republican brand.

John McCain (the 2000 version) might have been the only one I could get behind.
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