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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 08:56 AM
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Help answer a friend who's a corporate repub.
He's actually an economist for a major chem company. He said this morning "Corporate executives have divided their contributions fairly evenly across the two major parties in recent elections while union contributions have gone almost exclusively to one party. (And most publicly traded companies are far too timid -- and frugal -- to take full advantage of the recent Supreme Court ruling that allows them to make contributions. Unions have no such timidity.) This isn't about private-sector unions' representing workers in the mills. This is about public-sector unions' sitting across the negotiating table from public officials they've bought and paid for and who are therefore incapable of representing the general interests of all taxpayers."

Another friend hit him up with how Unions are responsible for workers having weekends off,8 hour workdays and not having their children working in the mills.

I countered with "What about the pols the corporate sector buys? They're sitting at that table too, and many of them have billions to buy representation with. Yes, Koch industries gave money to the DLC. The DLC is being supported by them because it divides the Dems (remember 'divide and conquer"). The DLC is really nothing but a faction of a 'Liberal' Repub party that serves big business."

Did I miss much?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 08:59 AM
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1. "Fairly evenly." Has he heard of Citizens United?
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 09:04 AM
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2. his analysis doesn't apply to Wisconsin though; "This is about public-sector unions' sitting across
Edited on Sat Feb-26-11 09:05 AM by bettyellen
.....the negotiating table from public officials they've bought and paid for"
Why don't you guys sit down and look at who "bought and paid" for Walker... and include all the pac / chamber of commerce money?
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DeadEyeDyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 09:12 AM
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3. KnR
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danbee46 Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 09:13 AM
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4. It's the amount that's important
Edited on Sat Feb-26-11 09:17 AM by danbee46
Also, it's not the number of corporations who contribute to the GOP,it's the amount of money.
The figures I have seen show that corporate contributions to the GOP far outweigh labor's
contributions to the Dems.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 09:22 AM
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5. He's right.
Edited on Sat Feb-26-11 09:22 AM by baldguy
Corporations support conservative Republicans AND conservative Democrats!
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 09:32 AM
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6. Your friend's compensation is out of line....
Someone in India could do his job for a fraction of his salary and be very happy with it.
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 09:33 AM
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7. Actually, I think he's the only economist they kept on in his division.
I think the other one was outsourced, or just done away with.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 09:33 AM
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8. BINGO !
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 09:47 AM
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9. Ask him aqbout 503{c} advocating for fascism with vast oceans of Oligarch dollars.
AFP, Club For Growth, AEP, every so-called 'Christian' or 'Family' organization...the list is enormous, and has billions behind it.

They buy the right wing wholesale to advocate stealing money from the working class and giving it to them, and it's done in SECRET.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 10:32 AM
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10. Historically unions have had waaaaaay less power to draw down the BIG money that would balance thing
Edited on Sat Feb-26-11 10:35 AM by patrice
s out better between the two parties.

And, even if they had that kind of power, or acquire it soon, there is STILL the issue of how institutionalized social stratification presents us ONLY with candidates of a certain genus, those who conserve power, their own and, hence, that of certain very selective status quo others.
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