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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 12:10 PM
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THEY ARE I.O.U.s, NOT ENTITLEMENTS!
Sorry to be so loud so early in the morning.
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 12:14 PM
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1. They are Bonds not IOUs
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Egalitariat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 12:17 PM
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2. Medicare is an entitlement. The only think you have to do to be entitled to it is have a 65th
birthday.

Entitlement is not a bad word.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 12:19 PM
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4. Money is taken out of my paycheck every week for Medicare -
why is it no one complains when people take money from a 401K, but Medicare is tagged an entitlement?
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 12:57 PM
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9. The issue is that a perfectly good word is being stigmatized.
ENTITLEMENT is a wonderful concept.
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Egalitariat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:05 PM
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13. The money taken out of your paycheck, and your entitlement to Medicare are mutually exclusive
If you never worked a day of your life, and therefore never paid a penny into Medicare, you'd still be entitled to it on you 65th birthday.

That's what makes it an Entitlement.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 12:17 PM
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3. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the word "entitlement".
We need to stop allowing the right wing to make good words mean bad things.

These ARE entitlements and we are all potentially entitled. Now lets move on.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 12:25 PM
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5. If they were IOUs
Edited on Tue Feb-22-11 12:26 PM by Codeine
then they'd stop paying us as soon as we used up the amount we put in. Most of us will take more out than we contributed if we are healthy.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 12:30 PM
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6. We contribute from our share of the current economy to ensure
getting a share of a future economy. True, we won't make as much as the most successful investor, but we accept a lower payback because of the reduction in risk.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 01:05 PM
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10. Which is an entitlement, not an IOU.
There's nothing wrong with the term "entitlement."
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 12:48 PM
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7. They are entitlements because you are entitled to receive benefits after paying into them for years.
There is nothing dirty or wrong with the word.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 12:56 PM
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8. They are funds to which we ARE entitled!
We paid in and grew a surplus. The government borrowed the money in the form of bonds. We are entitled to the money when we are eligible and file for it.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 01:27 PM
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11. While I agree with you, I think that the Right has turned
"entitlement" into a dirty word. I'm trying to retrieve the original concept.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 01:30 PM
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12. If they are not going to pay out then give me my damn money back!
Frak the frakking Repigs...
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