Boy chased by security guards dies (hit by car)- his underwear was showing, not allowed on property

[The Straight Story]

Boy Killed While Running From Security Guards
Family Demands $20 Million From Security Company

Orange County, FLA -- The family of a teenager who was killed while running from security guards wants the security company to pay.

15-year-old Raheem Key was killed last June when he ran into the path of an SUV.

He was running from security guards at the Waterford Lakes Town Center.

Those guards admitted in a taped interview with the Florida Highway Patrol after the accident why they were chasing him.

"His pants were sagging where his underwear was showing and that's not allowed on property," one security guard said.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/26920358/detail.html

[baldguy]

1. Death penalty for saggy pants.

:eyes:

[crikkett]

2. I feel compassion for those guards

they must feel absolutely horrible for what they did.

[FreakinDJ]

3. I hope the Wrongful Death Suit makes them feel Horrible too

Too many Jackass Security Guards taking the law into their own hands

[Drale]

4. While it was stupid of the guards to chase him for that almost nothing

I have to wonder why he would run from them in the first place if all he did wrong was have have underwear showing?

[BanzaiBonnie]

5. Because too many times, bad things happen...

when people are taken into custody.

[Drale]

6. But its not illegal to have baggy pants

the most the guards could have done was escort them off the premise. I also think that "bad things" happening to people in custody happens less then the media would lead you to believe, not all cops are bad cops in fact most are people like you or me just trying to do their job. Yes there are bad cops but there are bad teachers as well and we defend them to the death.

[The Straight Story]

7. The primary job of a security guard is to observe and report, not chase

Spent over 5 years in security and you never chase or touch people, that is the job of the police. You ask them to leave, if they don't, you call the police.

[BanzaiBonnie]

8. So, I wonder why they were chasing?

[The Straight Story]

9. Poor training, or they decided that the badge gave them special powers. Seen it all too often

Guards think their job is to apprehend, detain, or over confront someone - confront them, make a demand (like 'leave') and if failure to comply alert the police who do have the power to detain or force you out of a building.

[speltwon]

24. tell that to the security guards at a vegas casino or doing shoplift detail

It depends on the specific assignment etc. but plenty of security guards are perfectly legally correct in detaining people under the laws of various states for various crimes. Shoplifting is the most obvious example. In general, the law in most states allows private citizens, which is what security guards are (although they are regulated to lesser or greater extent in many states to perform certain tasks) to detain people and call police if they witness a crime. Cops are allowed to detain on "reasonable suspicion". In most states, private citizens (security guards) need probable cause or "in fact committed" the latter meaning they have to witness the offense to do so. They also do not have qualified immunity like cops do. I am not saying the security guards were justified in chasing this kid if all he did was violate their dress code. The most they could do is tell him to leave but if he runs - let him go. He hasn't committed a crime like shoplifting that they could detain him for.

Many security guards carry handcuffs, and they use them - for CRIMES. They are most definitely allowed to "touch people". Whether they can chase is of course up to store policy, but given a crime - yes they can

[baldguy]

10. I guess you're all for random strip searches then?

If you're innocent, then you've got nothing to hide. Right?

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19. According to one story...

he was being pursed by Orange County deputies (probably in conjunction with mall security), and drugs were found on the kid...

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100605/ARTICLES/100609674

[Fumesucker]

22. "Drugs were found on the kid"..

Well, that settles it, the filthy doper deserved to die.

Think of the children, we must win the drug war for them.

[Taitertots]

11. Darwin Award Candidate

With greedy parents who are attempting to profit off their failure as parents.

[Leftist Agitator]

12. I'm sure your 15 year old always did exactly what you wanted them to...

Especially when you weren't around.

:eyes:

[14thColony]

16. Wow.

Don't worry, your empathy hasn't grown back. Looks like the doctors were able to get it all.

[Iris]

13. You know, sometimes I think I'm getting more conservative in my old age, then I come here and see

shit like this and know that that will never happen.


WTF?????? Kill someone because you don't like the way they wear their pants?

[Mudoria]

15. The security guards didn't kill him.

[Iris]

17. I realize that but they chased him down as if he'd committed some heinous crime

[JI7]

14. i don't understand why they were chasing him

[apocalypsehow]

18. I don't either - that is the No. 1 question to be answered before I can develop an informed opinion

on this incident.

Regardless, the young man's death is a tragedy. But from what I read in the OP all the facts aren't in yet.

[Moosepoop]

20. I found some facts:

The security guards violated their own company's policy by chasing the kid.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/26920358/detail.html

A security guard confronted Key about his pants being low and asked him several times to pull them up.

The 15-year-old refused, so one guard chased him on foot and another in a golf cart, the guards said.

The guard who was watching it all from a security tower admitted chasing after the teen was a violation of the company's policy.

"We're not supposed to," the guard told an FHP trooper.

http://www.wftv.com/news/26918881/detail.html

The Florida Highway Patrol interviewed both security guards and their supervisor. The guards said they were after Key because they warned him several times that he was in violation of the mall's dress code.

"What kind of dress code was is that he violated?" asked an FHP investigator.

"Basically, his pants were below or sagging where his underwear were showing and that's not allowed on property," answered a security guard.

"Do you know what your policy is on chasing?" the investigator asked.

"The policy on chasing for Valor is that we're not supposed to, unless it's some sort of life-threatening thing," the guard replied.

Since this wasn't a life-threatening situation, the security guards were apparently just pissed that he didn't pull up his pants.

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21. I wonder if wearing baggy pants...

hindered his ability to avoid being hit by the vehicle?

[Tesha]

23. Mallcops with the power of life-and-death; that's what America stands for! (NT)