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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 08:23 AM
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Why I'll be voting for Obama
I've hardly kept my disappointment with Obama a secret, but as I watch the republican House in action, and anticipate the almost certain loss of dem control of the Senate, I'm reminded that disgusted as I am by more than a few Obama policies, I positively shudder with horror at the possibility of a republican President and a Republican controlled Congress. Do I trust Obama to use the veto pen? Oddly enough, I do when it comes to many issues. Do I trust any republican president to veto, say, the elimination of the EPA or the Dept of Ed? No. Not for a nano second.

And there you have it.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 08:27 AM
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1. I have no problem with expressing our disappointment
but when it comes to an honest appraisal of the alternative - a repug in the Oval Office - it's literally 'no contest.'
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 09:58 AM
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16. I too have been pretty critical of Obama.
Here, that is. Among my leftist co-conspirators.

It's a different tune when some outsider calls me for a poll.
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luvspeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 08:30 AM
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2. Your sentiment needs to turn into action and lots of it...
Or there is no doubt that we will have teabaggers running amok in 2012.
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 08:33 AM
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3. said it in the 2010 election...
may not like the Democratic choice but remember... Supreme Court Judges, committee heads, Speaker of the House, Senate Majority Leader... these and so much more are determined by who is in the majority

I am bitterly disappointed right now, about many things, but President Obama has accomplished some good things and you are right to shudder at the possibility of a Republican President and a Republican led Congress...
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 08:43 AM
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4. When you have a Two Party System your choices are limited
as are your realities........ Maybe something is terribly wrong with that?
Yes... I will vote for him but not work for him this time.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 09:27 AM
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 09:37 AM
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12. Extraordinary Rendition, Torture, War Crimes causing the deaths of 100 of thousands
Holding people without trial for almost a decade in Gitmo
Banksters and Wall Street plus all the other criminals I mentioned
held NOT ACCOUNTABLE

nevermind the pittance given to the middle class during these times

Yeah my vote will count to prevent the puppet on the right hand from being elected
and vote for the left hand puppet.

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luvspeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 10:40 AM
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22. Congratualtions...
The Koch brothers are very happy to hear this.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 11:34 AM
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23. I don't think the Koch Bros. would be too happy with my opinions -
because I believe Wisconsin needs to go viral all over this country. I am not in favor of people sitting at home - I am favor of them gathering in the streets. All of the streets. Voting doesn't do shit.
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 08:51 AM
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5. Obama is a centrist.
He always was. An exceptionally smart, pragmatic centrist. And that's fine with me.
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savior93 Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 08:55 AM
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7. Kstewart
That's is what I like about you. You have a since of humor.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 09:29 AM
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11. He's not a centrist - he is conservative. Ike Eisenhower
expanded Social Security - the one program that works - and Obama is ready to make cuts. That's not a centrist, that's conservative. I appreciate that you support him, that is fine and I respect that, but please be honest about what you are supporting.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 09:52 AM
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15. Ahh...the centrist or in other words a fascist not fixated on race, sex, and religion
A few rounds of the uncut stuff will be see the yoke thrown off more quickly by the masses than the watered down, multi-cultural version that is a little less cruel in the march for resource domination by the few.

I think the American people should either reject corporate authoritarianism or have the take the uncut dope until they have the predilection for authoritarianism beaten out of them.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 10:14 AM
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20. Slashing Social Security is a centrist value?
He ran as a centrist: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-15-2010/respect-my-authoritah

He rocketed to the right starting 1/20/09
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 08:54 AM
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6. 2012 will be the first Presidential election that I will be voting against the Republican...
Edited on Sat Feb-19-11 08:56 AM by onehandle
...rather than voting for the Democrat. It's not that I don't like him. It's the fact that he wasted so much political capitol being 'bipartisan,' rather than recognizing on day one, that they would not be.

Right now teabaggers are calling the shots. I don't want them to hold the final decisions too.

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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 08:57 AM
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8. Still 'hoping'?



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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 09:09 AM
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9. uh, no and you'd have to be blind not to notice that. duh.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 11:52 AM
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 09:48 AM
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13. Let's hope that we get an alternative running for the Democratic nomination
We can't withstand four more years of http://www.harpers.org/archive/2009/07/0082562">Barack Hoover Obama.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 10:02 AM
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18. There won't be a viable alternative and a republican president
would be much, much worse. Combine that with a repub Congress, and we're talking the unthinkable.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 10:12 AM
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19. We don't know what the future holds
Edited on Sat Feb-19-11 10:12 AM by MannyGoldstein
A month ago, would you have thought that Mubarek would be gone? That tens of thousands of protesters would be in the streets of Madison?

We must work towards a better future, not towards a slightly slower death.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 11:35 AM
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24. Rec this post. Amen. nt
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 09:48 AM
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14. I believe our fate is not in our hands through the ballot box in the future
unless we take a stand. We have to be a movement to get what we want as opposed to being told what we want. The Democratic Party ever since we delivered victories for it in 2006 has more or less dictated to all of us instead of listen to us.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 09:58 AM
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17. That this even needed to be said shows how screwed we really are
Its like having someone explain why they plan on breathing air.

:scared:

Don
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 10:31 AM
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21. A Republican ascendancy will do more to harm the movement than it will do to help it.
People need something to stand on in order to be a movement. Further economic oppression will only nurture corporate critical mass, further enslave, rather than free people. We need as much time as possible to build the movement before it undergoes catastrophe, which it will eventually anyway, so we need more numbers in order to be more effective.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 11:35 AM
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25. Is it campaign season already?
:(
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 12:03 PM
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29. I hope not. I was just thinking of it because of what the republican Househ
as been up to.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 02:13 PM
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33. I think that the weak opposition has emboldened them
to go screaming at top speed down the road of destruction before enough people actually quit rolling over.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 11:47 AM
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26. I think Obama will do less damage than the crazies,
so yeah I will vote for him. I don't want to but I will do it anyway.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 11:58 AM
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28. I'll be supporting him to save our court system and by extension, our country
a few more citizens united cases and we're dead. One more right wing nut on the court (we already have 4 of the biggest ideologues in many years) and we're sunk.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 12:09 PM
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30. I'd voice disagreement with ANY President ... and would prefer one who could HEAR it.
Apparently unlike many others, I NEVER expected Obama to behave differently than he has. Maybe I knew what to expect because I read his books and listened to him. I supported him. I voted for him. (My primary support went to Kucinich, since his ideology best matches my own.) Despite my steadfast disagreement with some of the positions Obama has taken, he's LIGHTYEARS better than Dubya/Dick (sociopaths!) and is an amazingly high-integrity person. (Rarely, if ever, has there been an occupant of the White House with a more impressive character.)

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 12:22 PM
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32. That will be the one and only reason I vote for him, if I have to.
nt
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