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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 07:54 AM
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My reply to a friend who was applauding the wisconsin governor
Edited on Sat Feb-19-11 08:11 AM by ejpoeta
and destroying the union. I am very upset by people. I admit I didn't pay much attention to it. I watched Rachel the other day who put it so clearly. Showing the influence on elections and where unions are in that just opened my eyes all around. They are getting rid of the only thing fighting the right wing juggernaut!! and it scares me. I swear I am ready to move out of this country sometimes. I am sad and scared. but here is my reply to this guy. my first reply was to talk about the political nature of this attack on the public unions and how it was interesting three unions are exempt... the ones who supported the governor. steve replied that no unions support republicans. here is my reply to that....

that is not true steve. and there were three who did and are being rewarded. unions are important whatever you think. they help workers, and so do dems (many times). people out there enjoying their weekends off work? how about a little vacation time? or perhaps you are sick and are taking a sick day. thank the unions for that. and being able to take breaks and go to the bathroom at work. thank unions. we all want to bash the unions. regular people making the same wages as everyone else. stripping them of their collective bargaining will do nothing to affect the state budget. but it will help corporations and businesses who already control so much of our government now. kicking regular workers in the teeth. and in doing so kicking ourselves. I wasn't going to reply at all to this post. but i am disheartened by the selfishness of people. i've got mine fuck everyone else. but i have got kids to think about. kids who i want to have a better future than they will have if this kind of thinking continues. It's not about dems or republicans to me. for they are so much the same nowadays it's almost indistinguishable. it's about us as individuals. we don't stand a chance against big business. and so many are all too happy to piss away everything our grandparents and great grandparents fought for for US! it pisses me off. such short term thinking. people who refuse to actually THINK about what it is they are doing or applauding. You are hurting yourselves. I'd say you will get what you deserve.... but then, I will get what you deserve too. And so will my kids. As we watch the demise of the middle class who are really the working poor at this point and rally against ourselves.... just think about your own future when their are no more unions and when corporations control everything and can get back to the good old days when they could work you 12 hours a day 6 days a week and fire you for no reason and not have to pay you for vacation or sick time. we are already headed there. with each new assault on unions we have even less than we did before. but you go on and applaud the disintegration of the only thing protecting US from the corporations.



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sandyshoes17 Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 08:13 AM
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1. well done
I try to explain that to my brother inlaw.
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 04:41 PM
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7. Welcome to the D.U. sandyshoes17 !
I wish you well... sometimes it's like hitting your head against the wall..

Peace...

:banghead:
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 08:20 AM
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2. I'm happy to be your 5th K&R. Off to The Greatest! nt
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 10:39 AM
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3. I sometimes wonder if I am wasting my time in replying to people like your friend,
They sure as hell never email back with, "Oh, thank you for your fact driven, logical and clear explanation. I've seen the error of my ways and now agree with you."

But I figure it's the same as when I used to lecture my kids. They may have sulked, they may have given me the silent treatment - but they did hear what I said, and they did think about it, and sooner or later I did see a change in attitude and behavior.

Keep up the good fight!
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 12:04 PM
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4. i feel the same way. i wonder why i even bother. i get myself all worked up and upset.
but i also feel that just not responding at all would be the same as assent. letting false info be put forward without objection at all. it seems like a waste of time.... but for some reason i just feel i must at least put it out there.

unions aren't perfect. but when they support candidates, they support candidates who support workers. and not just union workers, but ALL workers. that means you and me too. i don't understand why people refuse to see that. even if you aren't in a union, they help you. how can you applaud the demise of something that helps YOU!! i don't get it.
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Celtic Raven Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 03:49 PM
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5. Well said
Even if they don't reply.

:kick:

K&R

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MaeScott Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 03:52 PM
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6. K and R. nt
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