While everyone is protesting long term rulers, can we end this 59 year rule?

[RB TexLa]

And get rid of her family forever?

[Kaleva]

1. Why?

[JanMichael]

2. Who on earth should bow to so called "kings" and "queens"?

That horseshit should have been plowed under centuries ago.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. She has really not that much power

and during WW II she did her bit...

It is a CONSTITUTIONAL Monarchy... so be it.

[JanMichael]

6. Doesn't matter. Royalty and the cost of it should not be borne by everyone else.

And there is power associated with it regardless of its use or non-use.

Do you honestly believe that the living royalty are not supported by the violence and dishonesty that gave their ugly ancients the power to claim GOD given power in the first place?

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. It is up to them, not me

and the citizens of britain love them... so be it.

[cali]

21. what if people want it?

and in England, it appears the majority do. Who are YOU to tell them they can't?

[Agent William]

19. Ahh yes, I see you're from the US

I am very proud of our Head of State and the monarchy.

The thing is, a republic could be established at anytime, but by the fact that it hasn't means that QEII does in a sense hold a democratic plecibite. She was never elected, that's all. The UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, (the CANZUK countries) are all functioning democracies that have the option to end the monarchy at any time, the fact that they havnt means she is ruling through democrcy decree.

Oh yeah, God save the Queen and the Commonwealth!

[leftstreet]

4. You would put hat designers out of business?

Why do you hate hats?

:cry:

[EFerrari]

5. Actually, the Brits are geniuses.

Their oligarchy is out and regulated.

[PufPuf23]

8. The UK including Australia, Canada, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, and

various minor principalities in the UK seem to on average better shape and with better prospects than the USA.

All the USA can do is blow people up and use the media and play behind the scenes games. The USA has set itself up for blowback regardless of policitcal party. Finance has gone global and capital from USA is being sucked out of the system. Our economy is hollow.

I view the UK monarchy as a bit of as you say "regulated" history, llke a zoo to the past. Like having the Pope as a pet and a reason to keep in public commons and maintain architecture.

[white_wolf]

10. Thats not an entirely accurate comparison

the Pope still rules the Vatican and the Catholic Church and sometimes rules the Church very firmly.

[PufPuf23]

12. I mentioned the Pope in what I deleted before posting.

Complex subject. lol Weird costumes and church history interests me.

Edit to add: The Catholic Church has much cultural, physical, scientific, and spiritual genocide on its bloody hands.

[white_wolf]

13. Its all good.

The history of the Catholic Church can be very interesting and in some cases enlightening. For all of their faults on gay marriage and abortion, the Church does have an admirable view of Social Justice and often works to support Unions. And your right of course about the genocide but I like to try and find common ground when we can. Especially since the modern church likely abhors what it did in the past.

[PufPuf23]

17. I am 1/4 Irish Catholic. I did not know this until I visited my

relatives in County Down in 1981. I was with my Jewish wife and did not have a clue that my relatives were Catholic and I had never been a practicing Christian but by culture holidays. My great grandfather had left for California in the 1860s and my grandfather and 2 brothers left for California (to find his father), Ontario, and Australia in the 1870s and left behind their sisters, a family farm, and a family store. Bobby Sands died the night we arrived in Northern Ireland. My relatives expected a Catholic and our first vist is what wiki tells me is the oldest Catholic Churh in Northen Ireland.

My Dad had never mentioned Catholicism even though I went to a Catholic school by San Francisco in 2nd grade 60-61. We were raised wo/religion though my one grandmother went to a gold rush era til the 1950s Episcopalian church in our gold mining and Indian village.

I have a mixed feeling about the Catholics and Christians in general; until somewhere between Reagan and GWB I considered myself a Christian in culture but not a Believer. I was born and now live within an American Indian ritual site where I have been a major financial and heart-felt benefactor.

California and the Catholics is a sticky wicket. I tend to be pro-Indian and so not support Serra as a Saint.

Such is flotsom and jetsam of one's history..

I appreciate the social justice period of the Catholics in Latin America after the ignorant failure in California during the mission period. I also went to an Episccopal owned and managed boarding school in San Rafael 66-68 (8th and 9th grade). The senminarians and Bishop Pike were anti-war and so have I been since that time.

[white_wolf]

9. Oh please

of all the Monarchies you could pick, you choose the UK's? Really? First of all they have no power anymore and the people love them as a symbol. Now if you want to complain about Monarchs lets talk about Saudi Arabia. That's a real Monarchy for you.

[Nye Bevan]

11. YES. Depose that *autocratic* *despot* and put an end to her reign of TERROR.

:eyes:

[cynatnite]

14. Yes, those hats are as autocratic. n/t

[Golden Raisin]

15. Kill the Corgis!

:sarcasm: The majority of people of the U.K still seem to be OK with the Windsors. If the numbers change I'm sure there will be a plebiscite or some governmental vehicle to end the monarchy if that is the will of the people.

[Change has come]

16. Are you British?

Why would Americans have anything say about the Monarchy?

[cali]

18. no. what fuckin' business is it of ours?

[Agent William]

20. FUCK OFF! At least we have a head of state we can be proud of.

Technically she does weld awesome power in the UK and the other 15 Commonwealth realms, but it is extremely rare that she uses such power.

Why is it that Americans always seem to thing that QEII is some sort of tyrannical dictator who robs from poor people to invade Ireland/Scotland... That may have been true of medieval kings, but 'Mel Gibson' history is no longer applicable to the present sovereign.

[sufrommich]

22. "We" who? Are you British? nt