War has been declared.

[kentuck]

The right-wing Congress and their tea-bagging followers have declared war on the rest of America.

Let us call it what it is. It is a planned attack on everything we have worked for, for most of the last century.

If there was ever a time for strong Democrats in the Senate and in the White House, it is now.

It is time for these jokers to pay their fair share. They robbed us blind with their credit swaps and magic deals and are looking for someone else to pay for their mistakes and blunders. That someone is those that can least afford it. There is no limit to what taxes can be cut, most of these folks believe.

However, taxcuts have not created jobs. They have lost jobs. They have permitted these huge corporations to take these windfalls and build plants overseas and to move American jobs to where they can operate as they please, without regard to laws or the environment we all have to live with.

They smell blood in the water and they are going for the kill. They are sharks.

Do not be naive. It is a war and the sooner we recruit our "soldiers", the better off we will be. Our "soldiers" must be ready to march. They must understand what is at stake. It is about each of us and our families.

[leftstreet]

1. This is what happens when you prop up corrupt regimes n/t

[spanone]

2. just the right wing house, the senate will keep the monkeys in the zoo

[GSLevel9]

5. no, if budget issues can't get thru the House... they're toast. nt

[Uncle Joe]

6. Yes but they will still manage to fling fecal material through the bars,

and generally stink up the place.

[defendandprotect]

46. No - you need much more pressure on Obama ...

otherwise you're going to see more back room deals being made -- !!

[AKDavy]

3. "Bring it on"

Time to shed the fleece and grow fangs, people.

[Atman]

12. Welcome to DU

:hi:

[kentuck]

15. Fleece or fangs?

Tell us more. :-)

[AKDavy]

27. A simple choice about...

whether to be a herd animal waiting for slaughter.

The means and methods will vary with circumstances.

When a critical mass have crossed a threshold of suffering, when those who think they have little to gain realize they have nothing to lose, they will grow fangs.

[kentuck]

29. In the past...

Americans have had a strong "threshold" for suffering. That does not mean they will have the same threshold this time. Those with power do not surrender it voluntarily. You are either with them or against them.

[AKDavy]

The Power Elite will eventually make a mistake

"In the past..." they always have.

They're blinded by arrogance and avarice. They will overreach.

No way to predict when, and that's a good thing. If the Power Elite had seen what happened in Egypt coming, they would have done whatever was necessary to stop it. They would have killed anyone necessary to stop it. Better to wake up one morning and find regular programing interrupted...

Tinder is nothing without a spark. I think there's plenty of tinder, domestically and globally. We're just waiting for an event that will be the spark--some overreaching by the overconfident.

[kentuck]

34. Over-confidence is a mortal enemy..

just like in sports.

[Raksha]

42. I believe they already are over-reaching.

Sometimes it almost feels as though they're taunting us, those of us who know. I won't elaborate on that simply because I think it's understood here on DU what I mean by that. Anyone can know who really wants to...the problem is that most people don't want to. But maybe that is changing.

[BobTheSubgenius]

69. I think you are going to do really well here.

Welcome aboard!

[Foo Fighter]

75. "Tinder is nothing without a spark."

So true.

I think the spark in this case may have been provided by Mohamed Bouazizi in Tunisia. (And believe me when I say no pun is intended in any way, shape, or form. I do NOT find self-immolation nor the resulting injuries and/or death that can occur from such action to be a laughing matter by any means.) He probably had no idea at the time that his act would be the catalyst for protests which would only intensify after his death and ultimmately result in the President of Tunisia stepping down.

Since then, it seems that things have kind of snowballed. People are rising up and taking a stand and people in other countries are seeing that and are being encouraged to do the same. What we're seeing are hopefully the first steps being taken in uniting the workers of the world for a common cause.

All because some 26-year-old guy named Mohamed Bouazizi in Tunisia finally decided that enough was enough.

RIP Mohamed.

[madmax]

53. Welcome to DU - you're awright!

[socialist_n_TN]

39. Nice post. Welcome to DU.........

Another socialist? It's only class war when we fight back. Until then, it's class massacre.

[liberalmike27]

98. Yea, it's Like

Financial Cleansing.

DiDi Myers once said in an Crossfire argument with her right-wing opponent who was whining about the "Class Warfare from the left," that "You guys always hate Class Warfare, unless you are the ones doing it!!"

Awesome one-liner, committed to memory.

[Occulus]

87. We already are.

Expect us.

[Raksha]

104. Thanks - much appreciated!

:hi:

[Poboy]

4. There's been a war being waged since 2001. Lets wake the fuck up!

[upi402]

8. 1980

that's when i started fighting raygunomics

[RufusTFirefly]

63. +1 Yes. Totally agree!! n/t

[coalition_unwilling]

9. Um, since 1981 (Reagan's first term). Anyone old enough to

remember the recession of 19828-84 when Reagan and his junta broke inflation on the backs of the working class?

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. I was in college, and yes I remember

[Mnemosyne]

20. I remember. Things headed for the crapper and finally landed there now. K&R n/t

[Johonny]

36. well since ever

I mean they've always been fighting against workers right. The current ugly views probably can be traced to the beginning of the labor movement. It wasn't until Reagan that they had a face that union workers actually would support against their own union. Since then it's gotten worse and worse.

[krabigirl]

64. No one cares about those wars anymore...

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. The war started in 1980

this is the terminal phase of the let's kill new deal process.

FINALLY people are waking up

(Well truthfully the first skirmish was in 1948 with that right to work shit)

[Angry Dragon]

10. As long as they have declared war

then according to the courts Obama can declare them enemy combatants, hide them, and use torture on them without any crimes being committed

[Initech]

11. They did. Tuscon was that declaration.

It wasn't a formal declaration but it was definitely an act of war if there ever was one.

[SDuderstadt]

14. It was an act of...

Lared Loughner. Get real.

[kentuck]

16. How so?

Can you explain?

[Initech]

21. Ok so Jared didnt have the texts that Jim Adkinssin did...

I just posted another thread about this subject that goes to show the kind of psycho that this type of thinking breeds.

[Kennah]

13. Hopefully this is simply their initial success during the Battle of the Bulge

As others have noted, the war started in 1980.

If this is the Bulge, then perhaps V-T (Victory over Tea) Day will soon be here.

Turning the frown upside down.

[kentuck]

19. They have to be defeated.

There is no doubt.

[femrap]

91. Don't you think that all

of these supposed 'baggers' are simply being paid by the likes of the Koch turds? I don't think these 'new' repugnants give a rat's ass about this nation. They're in Congress because they sold their souls to the Koch turds and others Corporate monsters.

Look how they want to reduce regulation on Big Coal and Big Ag. They want to end the EPA. And they're doing this because the Corporate monsters are paying them to do so. I bet there exists many cash transfers from Turds to Teabaggers. Too bad the FBI or the Justice department doesn't look into this.

[mimitabby]

18. you're right

and we all have relatives and friends that buy into this stuff and call us fanatics for knowing the truth.

[saras]

22. It's just an old war, not even a cold war...

The war was hopping in the thirties, and we were losing. The temporary insanity of the Nazis weakened them, and progressive forces gained ground. They came back strong with the CIA and anticommunism, then they kicked themselves in the nuts again, by letting the CIA spread LSD all over the country in massive quantities. That gave progressive forces another big boost, as did some other changes in the fifties and sixties - the civil rights movement going national, for example. Nixon was in general a big win for corporations, though the country's focus was more on social issues at the time. Reagan was just another victory for them, but a crucial one for gutting the force of law, which Nixon, for example, wasn't really able to do. And so the story goes...

When people ask me why I'm a progressive, I tell them that I have a 200-year plan. I don't expect this fight to be won any faster than the fight against slavery (which STILL isn't completely over).

[kentuck]

23. We have always been at war with Oceania?

We are forever the underdog, even though there are more of us than they, because the wealthy have always held the power and never surrender it voluntarily.

[Skip_In_Boulder]

24. Yep, Dead on the Money

[golddigger]

25. Just told my brother today...This is freakin war!

I won't sit still for it. I'm 53 yrs old and have had a fucking enough of this shit.

[liberalmike27]

99. As a fellow CincoGenarian

I'm with you on that sentiment.

[kentuck]

26. We need soldiers...

...that understand what is at stake.

[wizstars]

48. Reporting for duty, SIR!

Sign me up and hand me my weapon!

[WinkyDink]

28. To seek "compromise" is TOTAL WEAKNESS to a Republican. They take your measure, and act accordingly.

[kentuck]

30. Exactly.

They worship wealth and power and the means to attain and keep it.

[blindpig]

81. To seek compromise with Capital is foolishness.

It knows no compromise, the mandate of increasing capital accumulation leaves no room for such nicety, they must go for the whole ball of wax, anything else would be irresponsible to the interests of investors. That is the lesson of the New Deal.

[NorthCarolina]

31. We don't have strong Dems in the Senate or White House. That's the crux of the problem.

The strongest Democrat in the Senate is neither a Democrat OR a Republican.

[kentuck]

33. Well, they had better wake up and realize what is at stake...

and find a backbone pretty soon.

[swilton]

45. Right on!

I was wondering when someone on this thread would point that out!

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[Pyrzqxgl]

35. I think the term is GANGSTERS. The Republican Party has been taken over by GANGSTERS.

[kohodog]

38. Actually both parties have been taken over by the Banksters.

Welcome to the Oligarchy. Brother can you spare a dime?

[Desertrose]

65. +1 nt

[glinda]

37. It is. If it doesn't then we are stupid.

[tavalon]

40. Damn straight Kentuck!

[catzies]

41. AND BATTLE COME DOWN. WISCONSIN CALLING!

it's time to redo the Clash song!

[JDPriestly]

43. If there was ever a time for strong Democrats in the Senate and in the White House, it is now.

How true. Unfortunately, we are stuck with Obama.

[bertman]

44. Class warfare, pure and simple. The Financial Giants and their Sycophants vs. US. Rec.

[wizstars]

47. this is one war I'll carry a gun in. Count me on the people's side against the corporofascists!

[Mojeoux]

50. No Guns, just your presence and voice!

No Guns.

[mediator]

97. Going to a gunfight armed with only a voice is a sure way to lose

and is pretty stupid.

[kentuck]

58. You only need to be armed with the facts and the truth...

...and understand the importance. We believe in non-violent people power.

[mvd]

49. Corporatism is one of the worst government types for the people

It's hard to focus on one entity, and they keep funneling the money in. Have to stop this corporate fascism.

[liberalmike27]

100. AS much as I'd Hate to cancel my Internet

I do think a lot of things can be done to weaken them, but at much personal sacrifice. Cut back on your Cable as much as you can. Cancel your insurance, and go naked, as the industry calls it if you can. Stop buying anything, make your computer last longer.

If you are soldier, stop the backdoor-draft by refusing to return to Iraqi-nam, or Afghani-nam.

As far as guns, that'd never work as an open revolution would be crushed.

I loved the movie "V". I think someone could write a great movie where a group organized to snipe at SC right-wingers, super rich folks like the Koch brothers and their Koch-sucking followers, right-wing pundits like Rush. I'd imagine there are quite a few ex soldiers out there that know the theater arts necessary to make the corporations pay for their actions. It'd be a little like Fight Club, I suppose, but more directed at the people behind the movement.

Anyway, it'd be a movie I'd love to see. I'm not sure if it'd ever get to air, a movie with the real culprits of America's downfall being punished. They'll never feel the necessary fear to stop trampling the rabble underfoot, until they feel the hot-breath of the rabble sneaking up behind them, or from afar.

Any violent revolution these days would end up being single acts by quiet individuals who'd go down in infamy being called by all three names.

[Generic Other]

51. I think it was being fought since way before many of us were alive

but the battles are just as brutal and nasty.

[whathehell]

92. Oh, yes....and one movie you might want to see that shows a lot of that

is "Hoffa" with Jack Nicholson (Jack is a strong union supporter)

Hoffa may have turned bad, but he didn't start that way, and the film shows just how BAD the situation

was before FDR came along and put legal strength to collective bargaining rights.

Another "union movie" I know of is "Matewan" by John Sayles....I'm sure there's more

and I'd love to hear from other DUers who know of them

[AsahinaKimi]

52. War Started when the SCOTUS gave the election to Bush

and it has not stopped. Its only escalated.

[madmax]

56. The day Iost all faith in the US and the USSC. nt

[certainot]

54. and their samson's hair are their radio stations

without those giant 1000 coordinated lying soapboxes to do the groundwork repetition for everything they do they can't make their lies acceptable. according to limbaugh public employees/teachers/union workers are parasites.

the left needs to realize those are the GOP and teabagger HQs. those are the places to picket and their local sponsors are the ones to ask what the fuck until those stations have to lay off staff or apply some balance. right now the right can use them to blast the country full out with call screeners to protect their liars and their monopoly ensures they dominate 95% of the stations/volume. some of those big stations are in downtown areas and they are more common than state capitols by 20 to 1. and they are 24/7 all getting walker's back and attacking unions.

[Citizen Worker]

55. Could it be that the fuze has finally been lit?

[Kablooie]

57. The right is pushing, and getting, more than when they were the majority under Bush.

They do seem intent on shredding every little thing that benefits American citizens.

[BobbyBoring]

105. Yeah!

They are and they continue to bitch and call Obama a socialist.

[bergie321]

59. I am afraid

That history is repeating itself...

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

--Pastor Martin Niemoller

[Major Hogwash]

60. Hit the streets - the time is now! Throw Walker out of office!!

Get him the hell out of there!!
Recall him!

[Gman]

61. It's already a civil war that could go very hot tomorrow

when the teabaggers get to Madison.

[Honeycombe8]

62. Sad, but true. Even I, a moderate, have to go along with this one.

It's shocking how blatant they are in setting out to destroy all that has protected workers for decades. We can't let this happen.

[texanwitch]

66. My father was a union member.

I would be if my company had a union.

[blackspade]

67. Great post!

I totally agree.

[Liberal In Texas]

68. Oh yes. Awhile ago. As Warren Buffett said:

It's class warfare, my class is winning, but they shouldn't be.

[Blacksheep214]

71. It comes down to education

Children are given textbooks filled with revisionist history and religious nonsense and adults are too fucking lazy to understand the issues.

This is simply their attempt to break the only competetion in election funding. Eliminate unions and the right owns the top 10 fundraising groups.

Bake sales vs billionaires!

Time to emulate our Arab brothers and sisters and hit the streets. We cannot depend on Democrats or Obama to do it for us.

Let's rock!

[akbacchus_BC]

70. I am confused, where in the US has war been declared? Please enlighten me?

[Blacksheep214]

72. I've never seen one

not even against Iraq or A-Stan.

[pulledpork]

73. The paycheck's real enemy: declining wages

Teabaggers and even more middle-of-the-road Americans have been conned into thinking that the reason they have less buying power/smaller paychecks these days is due to "taxes, taxes, taxes!" They complain incessantly about higher taxes, fewer, less efficient services, etc. But the real culprit is declining wages. For nearly 40 years, with only a brief respite during 1 or 2 of the Clinton years, wages have not kept up with inflation. Furthermore, taxes are actually lower relative to the cost of living than at any time in memory. That's one reason government at all levels is hurting fiscally. That. and people collecting unemployment may be paying federal taxes if they choose, but not state taxes. Also, when wages don't go as far as they should, even a modest tax increase has a deleterious effect. So cue up the Koch brothers and some corporate-brewed faux-populist outrage,


Now, in Wisconsin, we have genuine populist outrage, and what may be a tipping point with the potential to reverse the decline of unions in America. Or we can hope. A reverse is the decline of wages would also be welcome. They would certainly be compatible and mutually assuring goals.

[Blacksheep214]

74. Declining wages

The Koch Bros are laughing all the way to the bank.

Gas is over 3.50 on it's way to ...?

Has your pay gone up to cover that?

[liberalmike27]

101. Yep

a little over 4/5 of our nations wage-earners have seen their wages decrease over the last 30 years. Somewhere around 80K a year, the break-even point is reached. Then the increase in earnings of the top is exponential.

[emmadoggy]

102. Totally agree with you. nt

[Imagevision]

76. Definitely ready to march here...!

[Imagevision]

77. This tee-bag BS. has gotten way over the top as far as I'm concerned - lets rumble!

[cantbeserious]

78. When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political

bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Declaration Of Independence
JULY 4, 1776

[deacon]

79. It started under bush. The GOP picked up right where they left off. n/t

[dotymed]

80. I agree Kentuck.

We need millions of soldiers, but we need them to be peaceful and purposeful. Violence will not help our cause.

[Hubert Flottz]

82. K&R

:kick:

[PuffedMica]

83. K&R

[Doctor_J]

84. I don't get this post

Sorry. This is obvious to anyone with a brain, but, as you can tell from the responses, we're still not going to fight back, unless by fight back you mean post more vanity threads on DU. What do you actually plan to do, besides telling us what Limpballs said this week?

Sorry, I still don't get the point of this thread.

[santamargarita]

85. GOP Insanity is Off the Charts

I've never seen such a crazy bunch of people - their hatred for America is very obvious.

[WillyT]

86. HUGE K & R !!!

:patriot:

:kick:

[RoccoR5955]

88. War declared on Unions and the Middle Class.

They want the Middle Class to go away, as well as the unions. They are now vilifying Civil Servants, who work for WE THE PEOPLE. Time to stop them, and if it takes an Egypt-style revolution, then so be it!

[mdmc]

89. Corporations v. workers

if you are vested in the corporate world, things are going your way..
if you work, you really need to join the battle or perish..

[judy]

90. I think what is missing here,

is some attempt at restoring the moral fiber of this country, which has been totally destroyed by 8 years of Bush-Cheney, and many years before that starting with Nixon, then Reagan, then Bush Sr.
The war kentuck is talking about will eventually have no winners. This is because no wealth can be built on top of poverty and ignorance without eventually collapsing.

This is the cult of immediate gratification at the expense of everything.
If only our eloquent President could at least stand for something, in deeds and in recommendations, but as usual when someone becomes POTUS, moral fiber and "change" become lip service a couple of months into the job.

The fact that anyone can talk about any budget cuts other than stopping those 2 (or is it 3 now?) illegal wars which employ mercenaries and private contractors that are paid huge amounts more than US soldiers, is unbelievable to me. Stop the wars, redistribute the billions to those who need it including veterans, and the crisis goes away. Invest in the infrastructure, research in true green technology, undo the ban on hemp and use it for biodiesel (hemp I think was banned in the 50's because it reminded people of marijuana?)
Tax the super wealthy, tax corporate windfalls, undo the cap on Social Security contributions, et Voila!!
Crisis solved.

The cult of greed has wrecked this country, built on the most advanced ideas of the time. I don't know what kentuck means by "soldiers", but we need non-religious people who expose the cult of greed for what it is, and start teaching, and promoting balance and justice instead!

[ctsnowman]

93. All too true.

I am afraid of the masses of people on this planet who simply can not, or will not, use reason.

[emmadoggy]

103. I just said essentially the same thing to my sister this morning...

All this cutting and slashing the budget and carrying on about the deficit could be solved by ending the wars, cutting the defense budget, returning to the top tax rate of the 60's & 70's, raising or eliminating the cap on SS contributions, and making corporations pay their share. As you said, crisis solved. (Oh, and a whole lot of re-regulation would help too.)

And what makes me crazy is how all the repukes and teabaggers suddenly went so crazy over the budget the minute a Democrat took office, but uttered not a peep when their master was the one creating the crisis and spending money like it came out of the ether. (Bush or Reagan, take your pick. It applies to either or both.)

Of course, the wingers RELISH the crisis (and probably even deliberately create it) because it gives them exactly what they want - the opportunity to go after and undo all of the social progress, programs and justice that has been largely created by Democrats for the last century. And right now they seem to be succeeding quite well. We are racing backwards right now and I fear for my kids and their future.



:cry:

[russspeakeasy]

94. It would appear to me that this would be an opportunity

for the President to "earn" back some of those votes
he has lost in the past 2 years.

[nahant]

95. Class Warfare!!

Today I stand with all public employees of Wisconsin who are fighting for their rights." And tomorrow and the next day and the next and next.
This IS CLASS War being waged by the Rich on the rest of us. They will not be satisfied until they bankrupt the middle class and open new Debtors Prisons (of course they have a profit motive in those prisons)!!!

[earth mom]

96. It's been pitchfork time for years now.

:grr:

[silenttigersong]

106. Tea baggers with guns

I am telling you people like Beck, Brietbart ,want shots fired so they can blame the left.I dare say someone should speak up about this before it happens.Dont forget these azz-hats said next time we bring our guns.