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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:22 PM
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Koch brothers and CFL light bulbs? I noticed that recently the Tea Party
types have started ranting against CFL light bulbs. I'm curious, would a conversion from incandescents to CFLs hit the Koch brothers in the pocketbook?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:23 PM
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1. Don't assume that the Tea Party is not a grassroots movement
:P
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:25 PM
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2. They think the bulbs are another bit of proof of the power of the
Democratic nanny state. Yes, they are that paranoid.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:41 PM
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7. Cashier at the hardware store started to spout that nonsense at me when I was buying
a bunch of CFLs that were on sale.

She said that the government was going to FORCE you to buy CFL bulbs. And started to talk about "big government".

I laughed at her and said that I was SURE there would still be some way for foolish people who like paying more for electricity to buy the old inefficient incandescent bulbs. But then I added I could not imagine anyone dumb enough to prefer bulbs that burnt out frequently and cost you more money in the long run. I told her that I had voluntarily switched because I HATE changing light bulbs and liked saving money. I smiled and added, that people could always go back to lighting their home with candles if they hate progress so much.



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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:45 PM
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9. " people could always go back to lighting their home with candles "
Edited on Fri Feb-18-11 01:46 PM by sufrommich
lol. Next time I hear one of them spout that nonsense I'm going to use my outside voice and yell "PROGRESS IS FOR COMMUNISTS,WHO'S WITH ME??"
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:48 PM
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12. We went to CFL's in maybe 85% of our home back in the late 1990's...
cut our electric bill by around 30%...every month for well over ten years.
If they want to be so stupid, let them pay for it.

mark
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:49 PM
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13. Fucking awsome argument on your part, a lesson in 'Bagger handling
:thumbsup:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:29 PM
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3. A bit off topic, but has anyone else noticed that CFL's are getting more expensive..
over time, instead of less expensive as they should?

I used to buy them for less than $2.00 each, now they are usually $3.50 - $4.50 each.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:35 PM
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4. Yes, I have.
I bought numerous CFL's a couple of years ago so we could systematically replace the incandescents as they burned out. I recently had to buy more CFLs, and even shopping around, was surprised at the price.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:40 PM
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5. You jest, right? They will be required, and you expect their cost to go down?!
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:41 PM
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6. The current Lowe's ad has 6-pack for $6 (60W)
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:45 PM
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10. Are you sure that those were not the dimmable bulbs?
I noticed some bulbs in packaging almost identical to the ones I bought that were more than twice the price. Upon closer inspection, I saw they were "dimmable."
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:50 PM
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14. Standard 100W equivalent. Last week at Target.
I scanned the shelves for a long time and found nothing that was reasonably cheap.

It has been at least a year since I last purchased CFL's, hence the sticker shock.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:47 PM
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11. Not all CFLs are the same. There is a lot a variation in CRI, lumens, and price.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 01:26 PM
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17. The key word is lumens - I've seen bulbs with a 20% range in
lumens all listed as equivalent to the same incandescent.
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WingDinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:43 PM
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8. Far too modern. They prefer the tried and true. Teacandles.
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:51 PM
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15. The dumbfucks in my area are still railing about flouridated water.
I wish I were joking. I'm not.
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Populist_Prole Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 02:24 PM
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16. My Republican activist friend bounced this off of me too
He's involved in the GOP and is very hard right. Hates unions with a blazing red hot fervor. Anyway he tells me about incandescents being banned forcing us to buy CFL's that "are made in China". He stammered like a whore in church to my 2 questions:

1) "Where are incandescents made now? I'll bet China" He didn't know.

2) "Since when did you or any conservatives give a frog's fat ass about US jobs being shipped to China?" He went on a tirade about how it's the union's fault.

I asked him if he wanted to re-phrase his question, since he shot himself down. He said they throw shitty light. He's right. Touche. :sarcasm:

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