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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:05 PM
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"Today Christians ... stand at the head of[this country..
Edited on Fri Feb-18-11 01:08 PM by Ichingcarpenter
"Today Christians ... stand at the head of this country...
I pledge that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity .. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit ...

We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature,
the theater, and in the press -

in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality
which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal
excess during the past ... (few) years."










- Adolf Hitler


or Glen Beck?.



....... sorry Glen
its the other guy


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jeepnstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:26 PM
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1. What's the difference?
Beck's not a Christian. I seriously doubt the other guy was, either.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:35 PM
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2. If they're standing at the head of this country, then they should piss and free up the urinals.
And that goes for Glen Hitler and Adolf Beck, or whoever. too. ;-)
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:42 PM
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3. Authentic Christians do not seek power, but they do individually cultivate the full spectrum
of their own/internal personal responsibility.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 02:03 PM
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7. Nicely put - thank you.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 02:27 PM
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8. Christianity is much more basic & concrete than many people have made it & it still
believes that the whole IS greater than the sum of its parts. Problems come from people getting the "horse ahead of the cart" and jumping to conclusions about what that Whole is, without, first having worked seriously on a REAL foundation.

The Invasion & Occupation of Iraq comes to mind as an accessible and appropriate example.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:04 PM
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9. Define "authentic Christians"
I'll happily agree that both Beck and Hitler are/were very, very bad at being Christians (if Hitler even thought of himself as such, which is an open question) but disavowing the members of one's faith (and, full disclosure, I'm not a Christian) when they act badly is too easy, it removes our duty to police our own faith communities.
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:50 PM
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4. And that is why religion and poltiics should NEVER be mixed.
You want your morals to inform your political decisions? Fine. But the moment you use your religion to justify your prejudices, the ends are pretty much pre-ordained.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:52 PM
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5. I felt better when Nancy Raygun consulted astrology for public policy
...than when Bush listened to the voice of Jesus in his head for guidance.
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:54 PM
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6. The Constellation of Gemini has never called for the genocide of a people.
On the other hand, the "voice of God" in the Old Testament did that a number of times.
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