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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 11:39 PM
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Ok younger DU'ers, come over, and listen up
this is your moment. Some of us old farts, well we have been in a fight or two. Well not me, I am not that old... and riots in Mexico don't count. Though I remember growing up when strikes were called and the red\black flag went on... and the words HUELGA (STRIKE) were hung from oh the Ford plant in Mexico City. But really this is your fight too. This is one of those moments that in some decades, in a place like this you will tell the youn'ins of those fights to preserve things like the eight hour day... and a living wage. This is what is at stake.

So realize, you will have to take sides too. This is expanding... it will NOT just stay in WI.

This is the kinds of things that old foggies like me usually go to a dusty library to read about, and figure out what THEY did back then. This is happening RIGHT NOW. This is historic. So yes... it is you too.

Enjoy... this is not the 60s, this is different than the 60s, but it is yours.
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 11:42 PM
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1. I have taken to the streets
many times... I am not done... but you are right, the young people have to pick up and continue...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 11:45 PM
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5. Yes, and I saw young ones tonight
that warmed my heart.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 12:04 AM
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17. Mine Too....
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 11:57 PM
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13. Same here. I have worked very hard in the past. But this is theirs to own. This is their moment.
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 11:42 PM
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2. I agree with your thoughts,
This is YOUR chance too. I have seen a lot of young people in the rallies, so keep it up. Your voices are needed, welcomed, and bring new perspectives. It is important to see that NOTHING can be taken for granted.
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 11:43 PM
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3. I was just talking to my friend about this
I want to go all Wisconsin on Chris Christie
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 11:46 PM
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7. It will come
it is NOT staying in WI... It will be in NJ before you know it. Keep your eyes peeled to your local unions.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 11:46 PM
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8. It will come
it is NOT staying in WI... It will be in NJ before you know it. Keep your eyes peeled to your local unions.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 11:58 PM
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15. I heard you the first time dear. haha.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 12:00 AM
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16. DU burp
:blush:
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 11:58 PM
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14. That is a great saying "Go all Wisconsin". lol!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 12:07 AM
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18. Now that would be just cause -- !! Do you believe NJ voted him in?
Edited on Fri Feb-18-11 12:07 AM by defendandprotect
I'm here in Central NJ -- I don't believe it!!

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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 10:24 AM
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22. I"m in Central NJ too
And my county took a 30 point right turn from 2008 to 2009. They LOVE him here and I don't see how.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 08:40 PM
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28. Any chance it could be the computers that took the 30 point right turn?
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 09:15 PM
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29. probably not
We had similar numbers this year. We have the voter registration advantage but our county party is very weak and needs rebuilding.

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 10:47 PM
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33. hmm....
I have no comparison to make because I haven't been involved in Dem politics at

any level in a long time -- got a fairly good look at it quite some time back and

the whole limbo stick/threshold was based on $$$ -- super-delegates, etal.

My sister also tried in Boston -- same thing!

The Democratic Party has been wholly corrupted -- intentionally to make it weak.

Perhaps what you're seeing is simply corruption?

However, I still don't see that Christie could have been elected had NJ truly understood

what he was all about ... just my opinion!!



:)
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 11:13 PM
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35. I don't know what county you live in
I live in Monmouth and while it's a traditionally Republican county, but we came within 3 percentage points of taking it in 2008.

I think there was a lot of anger at Corzine for raising the tolls on the Parkway and that contributed, but I wish we had built on 2008. I personally don't believe that the Democratic party has been corrupted, I just think it needs a good army of soldiers on the ground to work on getting the message for voters.

If you wnat me to go into detail about this send me a PM.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 12:53 PM
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36. Thank you --
I'm in Union County --

however, when I was doing campaigning for Democrats would often do it at the shore!

You came within 3 percentage points of taking it in 2008!

I think there was a lot of anger at Corzine for raising the tolls on the Parkway and that contributed, but I wish we had built on 2008. I personally don't believe that the Democratic party has been corrupted, I just think it needs a good army of soldiers on the ground to work on getting the message for voters.

Well -- I will say this - the GOP has a very active propaganda machine in NJ which goes

into high drive whenever there is a Dem Gov elected -- remember Florio?


Will PM you with balance --

:)



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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 11:43 PM
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4. This is why I had children.
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 11:47 PM
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10. ...
:-)
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 11:45 PM
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6. This is your time and your Future...
Go for it, big time. Believe me - 30 years from now you'll still be smiling.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 11:47 PM
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9. Perhaps they will find, as I have, that there are people who want things said, but won't say them
themselves and will be quite glad if you do it for them.

Kind of a "good" copy/"bad" cop script.

So, young DU -ers, speak up in your communities!!!

Solidarity!
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RandySF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 11:54 PM
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11. My uncle who just passed away
Worked the assembly line before bathroom breaks were a part of the UAW contract. He said that workers were often forced to relieve themselves in the cars.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 11:56 PM
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12. One of my patients rode with Villa
he worked in a factory later on... the fight is across borders. He worked in a textile plant. They used to work eight hours with a fifteen minute break for food, bathroom and all. Why do you think they went on strikes?

We have it pretty good, but now we'd better be ready to defend it.
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thaddeus_flowe Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:02 AM
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19. I want to do my part.
And when the time comes I will. But as a student, I have responsibilities.
As an employee, I have responsibilities. But luckily for me, writing for a college newspaper can be a very useful tool.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:03 AM
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20. Depending on where you are, it will come
and you will have to chose.
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thaddeus_flowe Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:21 AM
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21. San Francisco
Im already resolved to to be at the anti-war protests in march.

Solidarity, friend.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 10:38 AM
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23. one for the youngsters...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKWfnO7fhQM

This may not be IT but it is certainly a precursor.

Capital inevitably digs it's own grave, got a shovel?
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 10:45 AM
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24. For some of us, such fights are not all in the distant past, Nadin
For those who were paying attention, the 80's were a time of huge street actions and massive protests. The early days of the AIDS crisis were met with silence by the Reagan WH, but with big noise in the streets. Many, many people got arrested, for months and years of action. That set of events helped to feed the movement for Universal Health care, the Medical Marijuana Movement and helped fuel Bill Clinton's election as well.
But the bulk of straight America never noticed. I'm the age of the President basically, and my youth was spent split between protest and working in high levels of mass media, often on the same day. I've also been on strike a few times, including the first, before I ever worked a day in the Union, as it happened. Also been out while others were on strike, walked other people's picket lines, the works.
Also, twice in my lifetime I have seen Los Angeles halted by civil unrest. Twice. And I'm not all that different from thousands of others. This is not an era where only grandpa remembers protests, Uncles and Aunts do too, and even parents! Oh, yes.
God, I'm forgetting Clinic Defense, which was an ongoing challenge not for the weak of commitment. This stuff, it is not all ancient history, the adepts are not all antiques. The stories are not all in dusty library books, they are in the hearts and minds of those who did them. Many of whom are not yet into their dotage.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 11:48 AM
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26. And there are young ones today who were not born then or
were very young and had other interests. This is their moment.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 10:55 AM
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25. "No Grapes" was my parents' fight, but I remember it well. (n/t)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 11:48 AM
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27. A guy at a mac store, that was his fight
as early as eleven.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 09:18 PM
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30. K&R
:thumbsup:
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 09:19 PM
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31.  beautifully written, nadinbrzezinski!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 10:35 PM
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K&R
Where's ma' med'cine? I cayn't find ma' damned mad'cine!! :D
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 10:54 PM
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34. nadin..
excellent sentiments and words to the young.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 01:00 PM
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37. I'm a little old and I say great post. Indeed, we are at a point in this
country that has monumental meaning historically and what direction this country is going to take. The fight presently and ahead was fought at the beginning of the 20th century. Here we are in the 21st century, a point where we have taken much that happened before us for granted. That is no longer possible. This generation is facing a stand up and be heard moment. Or lose what a generation has taken for granted.
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Zephie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 01:12 PM
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38. Hubby and I are hitting the streets in Tally in a few weeks!
We've been doing things for a few months now, but mostly social media based due to time and money constraints. I am proud to be heading to the Capitol for the first time soon. I might just send hubby home (unfortunately sticking around more than a day isn't an option for him) and stick around alone for awhile if I have to.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 01:18 PM
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39. (...and don't forget your towel!)
Excellent.:thumbsup:
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