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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:03 AM Original message |
Urban Prep all male charter sends 100% of graduating class to college!! |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
1. Did that include all the special needs and learning disabled kids they educated? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Five percent of the first incoming freshmen read at grade level. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. So,, they were what--developmentally challenged? Physically? |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. THey were challenged by their environment, and former teaching. Maybe read the article before |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. I did. My dad was a tenant farmer in the Depression and he managed |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Good for him, that does not discount the current situation of our urban youth or the prison stats. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #18 |
36. Please don't think that facts will derail anti-charter rants on this board--but a GREAT story, thank |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:45 PM Response to Reply #17 |
88. so your Dad pulled himself up by his bootstraps. Spoken like a Republican- |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:57 PM Response to Reply #88 |
96. Aren't you clever? What part of a "public education" and the GI Bill |
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NotThisTime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #8 |
24. Their admissions is non-selective by lottery only, whoever gets in gets in |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. And the hundreds of kids who don't are left with impoverished public schools. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #29 |
112. Indeed, we should strive not to improve any schools |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 08:44 PM Response to Reply #29 |
166. Fix the public schools. |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
98. Is it a true lottery or a quasi-lottery? |
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NotThisTime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 08:37 PM Response to Reply #98 |
163. True lottery, no prerequisites... and it's unfortunate not every student who wants to go will get |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
45. Selection is by lottery. |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:18 PM Response to Reply #45 |
65. I will bet a brazillion dollars that counseling out is not by lottery. |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Strange they don't give the SAT or just don't have the results? |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:33 PM Response to Reply #70 |
78. Probably a lot of the graduates are going to community colleges. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #78 |
101. Given that less than 5% of incoming freshmen could read at grade level. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. Do you know how many community college students can barely read? |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. I gave those Kudos... Now on to the outright lie |
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NotThisTime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 08:38 PM Response to Reply #78 |
164. Not true, the article clearly stated these were four year Universities |
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Gaedel (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #65 |
107. Maybe, just maybe........ |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. How about we don't do separate but equal experimentation |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #65 |
130. The girls are not going to prison at the rate the boys are. No one is saying forget about them, |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #130 |
133. Stop it with the "white man's burden"accusations. |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. Separation of sexes between males and females is not a new concept or experimental. It has been |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #134 |
138. Please demonstrate that it has been "proven". |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #138 |
146. Single sex schools are correlated with better outcomes. |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #146 |
147. Spuriously Correlated |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-11 12:55 AM Response to Reply #147 |
170. That's true. The correlation between co-ed schools and poor outcomes does not equal causation. n/t |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 04:30 PM Response to Reply #146 |
151. Thank you. We have to be open to different approaches to save our youth. This school is working |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 07:25 PM Response to Reply #151 |
157. No one is doing any such thing |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 07:57 PM Response to Reply #157 |
160. No one, myself included is advocating for separation of sexes in our public schooling. I have stated |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 08:06 PM Response to Reply #160 |
161. They make a claim that isn't backed up |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:17 PM Response to Reply #45 |
103. The article also does not describe the application process |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:30 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. I bet they didn't educate any conjoined twins either |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
26. Having investigated, I believe this school is an excellent example of |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #26 |
132. May I ask how you investigated? |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
74. And then there are all the children they 'reject" before they even start ... nt |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
86. kids in poverty ARE SPECIAL NEEDS |
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erodriguez (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
89. What is the student attrition rate? |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
2. Hand picked no doubt |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Did you read the article?? No one is handpicked. These are not top students. I am not suggesting |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. "When you are accepted," = Hand Picked |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:17 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. According to wikipedia, it's done by lottery. Of course, you have to get to ninth grade first. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
47. Freshmen by lottery. Other grades are by an application process |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Ah! Thanks for the clarification. |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:17 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. hand picked implies taking the top students, this is not the case. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
59. For the freshmen, at least. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. That's not what the article says. |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #14 |
111. The results of the test scores would not indicate they have the academic credentials |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
115. I wish I could hand pick winning lotto numbers |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
3. " About 60 percent of teachers at Urban Prep are, like their students, black men." n/t |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 08:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
167. Says it all. |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
5. If every public-school student had a mentor assigned to them, whom they could call 24 hours day, I'm |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:12 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. that's called parents. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
108. But there will always be students who don't have parents or guardians who can "step up." |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Yes we would, however, most children have parents who can help them. These kids for the most part do |
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NotThisTime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. I for one applaud the school model and students. Statistics for urban black youth are grim, I hope |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Me too. We all should. |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Me too, anything that makes progress with inner city |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:40 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. How about anything that makes progress with a handful of inner city young people, at the expense... |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. +1. I hadn't considered that. nt |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. How was this at the expense of hundreds of others? nt |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Unless they only hire administrators who can pull money out of their asses... |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #32 |
44. We should never experiment with what works in education, |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:03 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Ahhh. So you want to "experiment" with the futures of our young people? Are you fine with it... |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:06 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Yes,inner city public schools work so well that there's a |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:11 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. Yeah, charter backers have been slowly impoverishing them for decades... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #50 |
64. 47% of black males in Illinois will graduate. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:21 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. No, it's time to fully fund public schools again. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #67 |
80. Give me a break. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:44 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. You're probably right. "Fully funded education" is a myth that has never existed. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:54 PM Response to Reply #50 |
92. you could fully fund public schools and unless the PARENTS are present and demanding work from their |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:57 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. So your answer is to further deprive hundreds of students in that situation, sealing their doom... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:11 PM Response to Reply #92 |
100. Re read the OP. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #44 |
73. Who's shooting down "what works?" Fully funding public schools worked damn well before Ron Raygun... |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #30 |
102. girls? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. They're doing comparatively okay. n/t |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:15 PM Response to Reply #104 |
125. 100% of them at a charter school are going to college? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #125 |
140. What statement is that? The one you just made? |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #140 |
148. we're talking about this all boys school |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Then what's different about the teachers at this school? n/t |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:54 AM Response to Reply #16 |
38. They care. n/t |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #38 |
75. Or data does not support the claim of this school and something fishy is going on |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #5 |
20. From a previous article. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:54 AM Response to Reply #20 |
39. I don't know ANY teacher who wouldn't welcome those kinds of requests. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. I have no experience with private schools. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. I didn't say anything about cell phones. Pay attention, son. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Yes you did. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. Where did I use the words "cell phone?" |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. My bad. I thought you were disagreeing with me. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #66 |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 03:41 PM Response to Reply #66 |
142. Since you're apparently having a hard time understanding, let me put it simply. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #39 |
141. Yeah all those private school teachers |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
90. they are called parents. Parents need to step up and #1. be present #2 be disciplinarians |
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
23. Indirect selection |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #23 |
35. Supportive family?? Most of these boys do not have fathers??? Single working moms is the exception?? |
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #35 |
93. "Families interested in freshman admissions..." |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
25. So how many hundreds of kids get sub-par schools so this handful can be super served? |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. The same amount that was always getting subpar education. Now, however, we have a school doing |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Ahhh, so rather than solving the problem, you're fine with making it worse? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:55 AM Response to Reply #33 |
41. Explain, specifically, how these young men getting into college is making the situation worse. n/t |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. First you explain, specifically, how a handful of young men getting into college because... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:03 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. Because it raises the number of the city's students qualified for college. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Ahhh, it's okay if the education of hundreds, or even thousands, of kids deteriorates... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. You haven't demonstrated that it deteriorates for even one. n/t |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:08 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Run out of arguments? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. When you get done laughing, you can answer the question. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Feigning confusion. The number one activity at DU these days. |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. Doing the same thing for these kids is not solving any problems. Seems like this school is helping. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #48 |
62. Who said do the same thing? You can always tell when someone has no argument because they... |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #48 |
94. Is this school helping? Why doesn't the data about their school support their claims? |
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
34. Pisces! Read the admission policy on the school's website... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Here's an example of that "loophole" in action. |
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #37 |
63. Good story. Highly motivated kid. Good for him. |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
119. Why will they only distribute the aplications at the open houses? |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
40. It doesn't have to be a charter to achieve these results |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #40 |
83. Exactly. Charter schools are private schools that I pay for--while I send |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 08:41 PM Response to Reply #83 |
165. And public schools are what I pay for while I send my child to a charter |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
54. Charter=private school funded by stolen public school's money. |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
61. I'm glad that those kids did well, I really am |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #61 |
72. Unfortunately while you dream, kids fail and some die. We need real life solutions |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Okay, so where are you going to get the money for the charters then, if you think we can do both? |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. Many people and companies are donating to the charter schools. There is money for both, yet people |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. So you'd be happy to leave the public money to public schools and finance charters with... |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:44 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Good, them cut those charters off of public funding and I'm swell with 'em. nt |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:53 PM Response to Reply #81 |
91. What are you doing to support fully-funded, entirely public education? |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. It can't be a many-pronged approach when all the money is going for war. |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
79. The "different" effect |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:45 PM Response to Reply #79 |
87. Very well said, and a great point about the selection process. nt |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:58 PM Response to Reply #87 |
97. you think knocking "scientific" experimentation because its unethical is well said? |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. New Meme: "Magic Wand Educators" |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #99 |
116. Great phrase! |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #99 |
118. Excellent. nt |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 06:48 PM Response to Reply #99 |
156. you seem to be the one who thinks Money is the magic wand. |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:38 PM Response to Reply #97 |
113. Not knocking it at all |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:20 PM Response to Reply #79 |
129. Feeling special and elite should only be for white privilege? The kids aren't always motivated |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
110. K & R |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
114. Excellent news |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:48 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. The school claims that 100% of the kids went to college |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:16 PM Response to Reply #117 |
127. Perhaps |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-11 01:09 AM Response to Reply #117 |
171. Yes, it is. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
120. The key words: "of graduating class". |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
121. Some introspection is in order, DU'ers. |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:14 PM Response to Reply #121 |
124. This is about exposing a bogus "infomercial VNR" disguised as news |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #121 |
128. Apparently education is mostly about politics |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:25 PM Response to Reply #128 |
131. Or this is a bogus VNR to prop up a school |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #131 |
135. Which data are you going off when you say that? |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #135 |
136. There are lots of sites out there for parents that rate schools |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #136 |
139. For a valid comparison |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 03:44 PM Response to Reply #139 |
144. I have to go and do not have the time to google |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
122. This is in Chicago. The City Colleges of Chicago have open enrollment. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. Well, it's still a commendable statistic. But statistics never tell the whole story--thanks |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:16 PM Response to Reply #122 |
126. This school does not have an open enrollment |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 08:31 PM Response to Reply #126 |
162. That's not what she's saying. In Chicago, just filling out an app for a city college means admission |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
137. How about this |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 03:42 PM Response to Reply #137 |
143. Bingo!! |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #137 |
150. +1. nt |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
145. It still remains to ask: Why are the funds and support not being given to public schools? |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #145 |
149. Because people can't get rich off those? |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 06:01 PM Response to Reply #149 |
154. Who is getting rich??? How are they getting rich??? Helping underprivileged kids is not a way to |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
152. So? Logic isn't one of your strengths, is it? |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #152 |
153. Logic dictates that is works for this environment with these specific circumstances. Do charters |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 06:25 PM Response to Reply #153 |
155. Celebrating an anomaly simply because it fits your ideology |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 07:27 PM Response to Reply #155 |
158. I am not trying to advocate for charters. I am certainly not discounting your experience. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 08:47 PM Response to Reply #158 |
168. How do you know they are helping the kids? The stats don't seem too promising. |
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169. This is utterly tragic and horrible news! |
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