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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 09:57 AM Original message |
A rant against making people pay for water. |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
1. Water IS free. You just have to dig your own well first. |
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itsrobert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
77. I'll probably hit salt water |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
84. You can't legally dig a well in most city plots. |
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EnviroBat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
2. Try living in a township wherer the water company charges $78.00 |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Thats just bullshit! |
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Moostache (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:48 AM Response to Reply #6 |
34. The list of things that SHOULD be criminal in the country is too long to recount. |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
17. That's not so much. You probably pay more for cell phone, internet and cable. |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #2 |
30. They charge $3500 here to hook up to city water, and you do |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:03 AM Response to Reply #30 |
38. I would not want to drink water from a system where the managers and engineers were fired. |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #38 |
49. Wow, people think no one else has ever been to school except them. |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:17 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. WSSC is a centralized system that covers most of the Wash. DC metro area. |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. I didn't say that was always a solution. And just because one |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:31 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. WSSC for the most part does do a good job. But they are dealing with |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
67. my water company changed hands |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
3. I feel obligated to play devil's advocate |
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FSogol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:05 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. +1, n/t |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #3 |
48. I might even go so far as to say |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
76. My mother-in-law ran her lawn sprinklers 3 TIMES A DAY when her water was "free" |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
4. Wait a minute... |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
5. What you're paying for is the infrastructure and getting the water to your tap - |
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Luciferous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
50. Yep |
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brooklynite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
7. So, is it okay to leave the tap on all day long? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
8. Water infrastructure isn't free and pricing it discourages waste. |
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FSogol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
9. Do you see that there is a cost to processing/purifying water and making it available to every |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
11. I edited the OP |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I still have a problem with it... |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
12. Idealistically, yes all items necessary to live should be free... |
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Imajika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
13. You can dig a well... |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
65. Actually you can't. Not without a permit and you can't get one if municipal water is available. |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
15. It costs money to treat water to make it safe to drink and transport it so how can it be free? |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
16. My issue is not paying for it |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. The title of your OP says otherwise. Goalpost shift alert! |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #16 |
26. Outrageous? Water and power are likely TOO CHEAP in this country. |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Something for nothing always has a certain appeal though. It is human nature. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:08 PM Response to Reply #16 |
71. Who charges outrageous prices? Water is cheap as fuck. |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:56 PM Response to Reply #71 |
80. Outrageous = cut into my beer money. n/t |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
18. What incentives would people have to not waste water if they didn't have to pay for it? |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:21 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Someone mentioned |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #19 |
36. Water is insanely cheap in the US. about 1 cent per gallon. |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Yet people gladly pay $12.00 a gallon for bottled water, which is often tap water. Go figure. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Correct I was averaging the total cost (connection charge, water, and sewage). |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:24 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. When people complain about their water bill ask them if they buy bottled water. They usually get |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
66. Likely the same people who are outraged by how 'expensive' |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
20. If the government distributed the water it still has a cost |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:26 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I know that, but my point |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Should be cheaper and is cheaper are two different things my friend |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. There are in fact publicly owned utilities. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
24. If there was no charge for water or electricity demand would rise. |
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yelligilli (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
25. Take a bucket to the river and boil it. There - it's free! |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Particularly if you also collected the wood and burned it to heat the water. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
28. It is expensive to maintain a system to deliver safe water to residences. |
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yelligilli (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
31. What next? A rant against making people pay for cell phones?? |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Yup. They are too expensive and people are silly for paying those rates. n/t |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. I think my high speed internet and cable should be free also. And books. Books slow down dementia. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #35 |
45. Gutenberg Project. |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Awesome. But wait. What if Granny is not connected and doesn't have an e-book reader? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Well, I guess she'll have to visit the public library. |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #52 |
72. You have to pay to get a library card in most places |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:27 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Really? I've never paid for one. In Saint Paul, or any place I've |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:13 PM Response to Reply #31 |
56. Yes, because those are exactly the same thing. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
37. Water rights have always been an issue.. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
40. many water departments are NOT private entities |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. The connection charge + usage is a valid structure. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. it's a valid structure if you wanna screw the little guy |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. The lines have been there for 50 years which is why the require maintenance. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. but again, maintenance can be covered by profit on water sales |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Well i doubt the difference is that extreme. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #60 |
82. well I am on the board, so those are approximate prices |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
43. People aren't paying for the water. They're paying for the infrastructure, |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
47. It's like air - go outside and get polluted air for free, or go to one of those oxygen |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
51. After reading |
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stuntcat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:37 PM Response to Reply #51 |
63. it's |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 01:29 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. All you have to do is travel to some other countries to appreciate what we have. |
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badtoworse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
55. Totally asinine post |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Clearly you didn't bother |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:28 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Well the asinine-ness of the OP is there regardless of the responses. |
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badtoworse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Your responses are still pretty naive |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
69. DOes the fee for water also include sewage service? |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
70. If they don't pay anything for it they will waste it in insane quantities. |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
75. How about you throw food in there as well? |
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itsrobert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. And shelter, and clothing |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. I could use a new car. |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
79. Fresh out of the nest I take it? Sucks how much life actually costs, doesn't it? |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
83. Okay, so I was wrong |
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