Bieber fans go on Grammy-fueled Wikipedia rampage

[cali]

By Helen A.S. Popkin

The quintessential Wikipedia editor is a 25-year-old guy, a graduate student and typically overrepresented in the fields of science, technology, engineering and mathematics. Except for maybe in the last 24 hours. Apoplectic over bassist and vocalist Esperanza Spalding's dark horse win for Best New Artist Grammy, beating out Justin Bieber, True Beliebers took to Wikipedia to vent their rage over this shocking injustice.

While there’s no quick way to prove that the more than 90 edits made on Spalding’s Wikipedia entry in the hours following her win were largely the work of adolescent girls, much of the handiwork is in the now-notorious style of today’s refined young ladies of the Internet.

"JUSTIN BIEBER DESERVED IT GO DIE IN A HOLE. WHO THE HECK ARE YOU ANYWAY?" is just one of the un-annotated "facts"added since to Spalding’s entry last night. "SHE IS F****** REATARD," is another of the whimsical turns of phrase (with spelling to match!), added, and since edited from the post. And according to one helpful editor, Spalding’s middle name was, ever so briefly, "Quesadilla."

To be fair, not all of the offending Wikipedia edits dripped with hormones and poorly-blended eye shadow. Trolls were quick to bait Beliebers with anti-Bieber jabs; several tinged with the homophobia typical of the Internet and often attributed to males. "HaHa Justin Bieber, you're just a little boy with no Grammy for Best New Artist.irehjbpojeh
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[sakabatou]

1. "Stop picking on Justin Bieber!"

[calimary]

30. LOL!!!!!

LEAVE! JUSTIN! BIEBER! ALOOOOOOOOOONNNNNE!

:rofl:

[Electric Monk]

2. ok, that's pretty funny

[blogslut]

3. I called it

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=9622138&mesg_id=9622142

[MadHound]

4. As little as I care about the Grammys,

I was happy to see both Bieber and GaGa get just what they deserve, nothing.

Neither of them are in any sense groundbreaking artists, or frankly any kind of decent artist at all. Just a couple of flavor-of-the-month pop tarts hustling for the bucks.

[Fuzz]

7. Yeah, I don't get the whole GaGa thing.

The music scene needs a good kick in the ass right now to wake it up again.

[Warren DeMontague]

15. This is going to be a good year for REAL music, I think.

As opposed to mass-produced shlock and cheez whiz.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

10. Gaga got three Grammys. This is nothing?

I've been a musician since the age of five (classical on two instruments and voice).

Lada Gaga has an excellent voice. I can tell from her belting on "Bad Romance".

She is much more talented than Madonna. She is a competent pianist and very bright. I watched the interview with Anderson Cooper.

I do not understand the weird clothes at all, either, but I would much rather listen to her songs which have verses, choruses, and structure, than the rap crap of Eminem.

[cali]

17. She has, at best, a mediocre voice. She is so much less talented

than many, many female vocalists.

[Missy Vixen]

26. I disagree

GaGa can sing. I'd much rather listen to her than Katy Perry, for instance.

I also enjoyed the Anderson Cooper interview. She seems thoughtful. I appreciate her emphasis on self-esteem.

[cleanhippie]

37. How can you tell?

Seriously? How can one tell if any of today's "pop" stars can sing? What we hear come out of the speakers is NOT their natural voice, so how can you say that?

[cali]

56. How about I've seen Grace Potter and Neko Case live?

and acoustic.

And here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgc5l9X3Dn4

You gonna tell me that's not her real voice?

[cleanhippie]

57. I cannot tell you that.

There certainly ARE some talented singers out there, but many of the pop "stars" cannot really sing at all.
And wasn't the "singer" in question lady gaga?
I hope you understand the point I am trying to make.

[cali]

59. oh, I agree with you that many pop stars can't sing at all

but I think it's easy to hear that Lady GaGa is not a talented vocalists- just as it's easy to tell that Neko and Grace are.

[roguevalley]

50. mediocre voice: Madonna, Taylor Swift, Katy Perry

Gaga is an original, has great pipes and a big good heart.

[MadHound]

60. A big good heart, well I can't argue with that,

But original? Sorry, but she has ripped off her image and style from Madonna, Cindy Lauper, Annie Lennox, and Grace Jones. She is hardly original.

[MadHound]

24. I admit, I have never heard GaGa live,

So I can't judge her true voice. However it seems to me that on Bad Romance and other works of hers, the vocals are overprocessed, run through too many electronic filters. To me, this has always been a sign that the person's actual voice is on the mediocre to poor side of the vocal range.

As far her talent, we'll have to agree to disagree. To me, it seems as though she is simply doing a retread combination of Madonna, Lauper and Lennox. Likewise, the visual and showmanship of GaGa comes off as simply being an updated version of Madonna and other such flamboyant performers. There is little or nothing original in her work.

[cleanhippie]

41. No one has.

I'm not sure ANYONE has heard her sing live, unassisted, without backing tracks, without autotune, without..., well, you get the idea. I would be surprised if she could walk onto a stage and sing A Capella.

[MadHound]

25. She didn't get any of the biggies,

And before the Grammys, predictions were that she was going to get some major awards. Instead, she got nothing but consolation prizes.

[The Backlash Cometh]

29. She is definitely talented.

I think her show promo style turns some people off. That's why I don't watch the Grammys or MTV Awards. They either try too hard to be unlikeable, or too much drama. I like the Oscars and golden globe because you're bound to find talent that doesn't take themselves too seriously and they know how to pull off wit without bringing down the tone of the entire show.

[GoCubsGo]

14. Huh?

Lady GaGa got "Best Pop Album". I agree with your assessment of her talents, however. Ditto for Bieber. But, I have to say that I find Lady GaGa and her wardrobe rather entertaining.

[Lucian]

44. Something we both can agree on.

Both are no-talent hacks.

[msongs]

5. considering all the filthy and vile things said about him as well its not that surprising

just read the comments on youtube music videos that have nothing to do with the kid and you will see calls for his rape in prison, castration, execution, etc. envy is ugly

[sufrommich]

8. Gosh, usually youtube comments are so reasonable. nt

[sufrommich]

6. The Bieber War. It has begun.

:woohoo:

[SidDithers]

12. Would today be considered B-Day?...

hehehe

Sid

[beac]

48. Or B-V-D day, perhaps?

Sounds like those Justin lovers are soiling themselves with fear than the teen idol might not be "all that" after all.

[rocktivity]

9. Being the most popular doesn't always mean you're the best, kiddies.

But decide for yourselves (in alphabetical order to insure impartiality):

Esperanza Justin

:dilemma:
rocktivity

[tridim]

11. Screw it, I'm listening to Zeppelin.

You know, real music.

[Boswell]

13. the world as we know it ended

when Zep stopped being played on jukeboxes...

[Warren DeMontague]

18. Yes, but...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3CmXGKXOmk

[Boswell]

65. you know it, I know it

:)

[calimary]

36. Hear hear! When I'm not listening to ACIDIC, that is...

www.acidicband.com

www.facebook.com/acidicband

[Urban Prairie]

16. Whatever happened to Bobby Sherman?!?

oops...wrong decade..:P

[somone]

19. Well they didn't call him today's Mozart for nothing

LOL

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xlc3wo3OPxk/S_x2vnkGn2I/AAAAAAAAANg/U51-A6SKiN4/s1600/bieber+fans.jpg

[Ron Green]

20. Ahh, the demise of music education in public school

has taken its toll....

[rocktivity]

22. That, along with the corporate force-feeding of electronic- and video-oriented acts

Why knock yourself out learning about music and playing instruments when a pretty face, a designer wardrobe and a synthesizer can take you even farther?

:eyes:
rocktivity

[Horse with no Name]

32. You might be surprised to know that Bieber is a very talented

musician. He plays the guitar, piano, drums and the trumpet (self-taught) and he is very good and very talented musically.
I think that many can just lump these teeny bop artists in the same box--but realistically, they don't all belong there.
Disney chews these kids up and spits them out. I will agree with that and MANY of them are really not that talented. But take a look at the kids who are successful--most of those kids are talented and are not Disney.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXwqxGUZuyc

[roguevalley]

51. I wish I could remember the article where he was walking along

with his entourage and someone touched his arm. He turned around and screamed "don't f**king touch me again" and walked on. Apparently he does this off and on. Little shit.

[Horse with no Name]

54. I heard about one of those incidents

but my experience is that people lie. They just do.

http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2010/04/28/justin_bieber_mad_that_fan_knocked_ove
However, his fleeting journey through the terminal turned sour when one overeager fan knocked his mum to the floor and stole the star's hat.

In a post on his Twitter.com page, Bieber raged, "The airport was crazy. Not happy that someone stole my hat and knocked down my mama. Come on people. I want to be able to sign and take pics and meet my fans, but if you are all pushing security won't let me. Let's keep it safe and have fun."


Not disputing what you said you read--but there are always haters out there. And a teen boy superstar would surely bring them out.

What you reported reminded of an incident that happened around here regarding Miranda Lambert. I had some friends that were at this event and they say that the assault just never happened.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20195673,00.html
>>>snip
Miranda Lambert has been cleared of accusations of assaulting a fan in a Texas bar, authorities announced Friday.

Earlier this week, a woman identified as Aisha Esbay accused the country singer of pushing her multiple times during an argument in Bootlegger's, in Tyler, after she asked for an autograph.

"After police spent numerous hours researching the case, Esbay's claims were found to be completely false," says a statement from the Smith County Sheriff's Office. All alleged assault charges have been dropped against the singer.

Esbay has been arrested and charged with a misdemeanor offense of filing a false report to a police officer, according to police. She is currently being held at Smith County Jail.

[roguevalley]

67. probably true. His parents look strong. probably keep him from being

totally obnoxious. One can hope.

[blondeatlast]

21. I don't get this--okay, maybe you or/and I don't care for the music, but someone else does.

Why expend energy on it when you can choose to avoid it?

[sufrommich]

27. "Why expend energy on it "

As opposed to "Charley Sheen speaks about Egypt" or "Egyptian guy with kitten"?

[blondeatlast]

31. I wasn't addressing the OP, just the idea of music-hate in general.

I love The Specials, Fishbone, X, Nancy Wilson, Johnny Cash--and the Carpenters. My musical taste is frequently questioned for simply that last example. :shrug:

there's a lot I don't like--but none that I despise. It just doesn't compute with me.

[Horse with no Name]

34. I love Air Supply and Barry Manilow

That makes me an evil person in some circles...

[blondeatlast]

35. We should merge our iPods, LOL!

I've been known to shake my tail feather "At the Copa"!

[Horse with no Name]

49. LOL! My IPOD would heart your IPOD

I even have some Milli Vanilli and Leo Sayer on mine!

[blondeatlast]

62. Oh, geez...

I (heart) your music! I have a whole bunch of vintage Jackson 5 and, and, wait for it...

loads of the Monkees and Paul Revere and the Raiders! :rofl:

[cali]

28. because I think it's a funny story

I don't care if people like Justin Bieber or Lady GaGa or anyone else.

[blondeatlast]

33. sorry--wasn't directed at you specifically, see my reply above. nt

[Tatiana]

23. "True Beliebers?"

:rofl:

That's hilarious.

I do like Gaga's acoustic version of Paparazzi. She has a decent enough voice compared to the Britney Spears and Ke$has of the music industry. And she plays an instrument, plus writes her own material.

That said, it's nice to see some truly great, unique, and talented artists get recognized for their work (and hopefully a sales boost as well).

[Javaman]

38. Poop fights of teh stupids.

At a certain age, this kind of crap seems world shaking important.

Some grow out of it, some others become tea part members.

Either way, it's nothing more that stupid teenage angst at the world when they can't get the new playstation.

:popcorn:

[chaska]

39. I was shocked by Esperanza's win. She's actually quite good....

amazing frankly. How the hell did she win???

[nolabear]

40. Well, if you look up the average Beiber fan the word "mature" won't be in the description.

They're pissed off little schoolgirls, and hell hath NO fury like a Beiber fan scorned.

[AngryAmish]

42. "SHE IS F****** REATARD,"

Can I change my screen name?

[AmandaMae]

43. lol.

that's pretty sad.

[muntrv]

45. This is a sign that Beiber is going out of style.

[rocktivity]

46. The down side to being a sensation

Is that sensations wear off.

Jon Bon Jovi says that the first things he told his new manager was to keep him out of tween mags like Sixteen and Tiger Beat. Even then, he knew.

:headbang:
rocktivity

[Ratty]

47. I've been meaning to ask this: Parents, are any of your kids Bieber fanatics?

Or Hilton heads, Kardashian cultists, whatever. If so, what do you do? Does it just drive you up the wall? Do you shrug and say kids'll be kids? Are you secretly disappointed in them, or feel you've done something wrong? Do you ban these fake celebs in your household, try to reason with them, what?

If I were a parent I'd go through the roof and ban em all to their rooms till they're 17. Good thing I'm not a parent.

[tabbycat31]

64. one of my best friends LOVES Bieber

And he's not exactly the demographic that usually does. He just turned 21.

I told him that if he's old enough to come to the bars with me he's too old for Bieber.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

52. Americans responding to grave injustice? Egyptians, eat your hearts out! nt

[Odin2005]

53. I wish people cared about important things as much as they care about Bieber.

[delightfulstar]

55. His fans reflect so well on him...

:sarcasm:

Seriously, though, I was happy to see someone with actual talent win. It's about time the recording industry quits bowing down to the flavor of the week.

[MilesColtrane]

58. Hilarious when you consider that, in five years, when they get old enough for high school,...

not one of these fans will admit to ever being into Lil' Justin.

Then, somewhere around their mid 30s, it will be kitschy and nostalgic to finally cop to the fact that they downloaded his music and had his poster on their walls.

[JVS]

61. There is only one solution. Justin Bieber needs a comeback tour starting in North Korea!

[Manifestor_of_Light]

63. I didn't like Led Zep when they were new, like in '70.

Too much distortion.

I think Madonna is mediocre. Cyndi Lauper has an excellent voice.

Celine Dion has a very good voice. She catches a lot of shit for that suckwad Titanic song. Her stuff in French is good. I don't know why they picked on her on SNL.

I still say Lada Gaga has an excellent voice, even though I HATE autotune, and I can tell she is a competent pianist (I took piano for twelve years, violin for nine years, voice for two years).

She is very bright. When she was talking about her drug use she said, "I don't lie."

That's the first time I have heard ANYONE on TV say that.

[blondeatlast]

68. Exactly--our tastes change and if we all shared the same ones life would be

gawdawful boring. I didn't like Led Zep either until my then 13 yo son started liking them last year. Mpw I love 'em.

[jmowreader]

66. If you want to see just how clueless some of these Beliebers are

This is the Justin Bieber cover of the Brazilian equivalent to America's "Tiger Beat" magazine...



The Bieber fans are all up in arms: "They photoshopped Justin's picture! They put lip gloss and eye makeup on him! They airbrushed away every little flaw on his face! Oh this is terrible!"

Okay, let me ask you a question. You are the art director for this magazine. You are going to put a picture of Justin Bieber in this much makeup on the cover of your book. Would you (a) pay a Photoshop expert $500 to smooth the skin, line the eyes and gloss the lips of a photo you already had, or (b) just have your stylist glam him out?

[toddaa]

69. Did Agalloch's "Marrow of the Spirit" win Album of the Year?

No?

What the fuck is a Grammy?

[Warren DeMontague]

70. I changed my mind about Bieber after I heard his 20 minute Dark Star--->Other One jam.