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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 06:27 AM
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Holy Shite you have got to watch the interview with Tony Blair
on the Egyptian Revolution. The war criminal doesn't even have dates correct. He said that Mubarak took office in 1979- Sadat was assassinated on 6 October 1981.

How can the so called fugging envoy to the Middle East not know that it was Carter, Sadat and Begin who signed the Peace Treaty?

Was this deliberate misinformation?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12442755

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Peace%20Process/Guide%20to%20the%20Peace%20Process/Israel-Egypt%20Peace%20Treaty
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 07:05 AM
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1. I saw him on BBCWorld a few hours ago - what a rat!
"don't blame the 'West' for propping up Dictators...."

Huh, we don't just prop them up, we actually install most of them!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 07:13 AM
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2. Wasn't that amazing?
BBC stopped showing that massive error - hahahahaha.
I hope someone copied it for You Tube
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 07:15 AM
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3. They have their own George Bush...
who won't go away.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 07:19 AM
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4. Blair is actually worse than Bush
The war criminal is still involved in politics
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 07:25 AM
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5. Check this out
http://www.palestinechronicle.com/view_article_details.php?id=16617
<snip>
Tony Blair, with the blood of Iraq, Lebanon and Palestine dripping from his fingers, says Egyptian dictator Husni Mubarak is “immensely courageous and a force for good.” The opinion is based on working “with him on the Middle East peace process.” Mubarak’s record on the pacification process involves helping the Palestinian Authority transform itself into a (stateless) police state apparatus, obstructing Fatah-Hamas reconciliation, and constructing, in concert with US army engineers, a metal wall underneath the Gaza border.

Under Nasser’s police state Egypt had no popular sovereignty, but it did have national independence. This was lost at Camp David in 1979, when Sadat signed peace with Israel, retrieved the occupied Sinai peninsula, and received the promise of billions of dollars of annual American aid. After Israel, Egypt is the second largest recipient of US aid. American funding of the military is the reason why top officers remain loyal to the regime despite all the humiliations (for Egypt lost its Arab leadership role long ago) and committed to the peace treaty, although Israel has reneged on its Camp David undertaking to provide a just solution to the Palestinian problem.

Blair claims to fear that democracy in Egypt will be stolen by the Muslim Brotherhood – an improbable outcome, to say the least. The Brotherhood is popular and deeply rooted, but so are secular nationalist and leftist currents. The Brothers are involved but not at the forefront of the revolution, and they recognise this quite plainly. Egyptian democracy would resemble Turkey more than Iran (though it would be poorer than both). And even if the Brothers were to win a majority in a powerful parliament, Egypt is in no position to take on Israel militarily. It’s entirely possible that the peace treaty would survive a Brotherhood government, which would be eager first to prove its worth by improving living standards in Egypt.

But no real democracy in Egypt, whether secular or Islamist, neo-liberal or leftist, would provide support for the colonisation of Jerusalem and the West Bank, the emasculation of Palestinian political forces, or assaults on Lebanon, Syria or Iran. This is what most immediately worries Blair and other Zionists.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 08:48 AM
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6. Why would anyone unrec this thread?
I rec'ed it, because I'm always interested in what our allied war criminals are up to, and this OP is informative in that regard. When I rec'ed it, the total rec came to "0"--which means that somebody went to all the trouble to unrec it. Why?

Tony, are you there?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 10:42 AM
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8. I laugh at unrecs
:hi:
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 12:17 PM
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11. Unrecs don't matter. Put them out of your thoughts.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 10:26 AM
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7. Just more neo con "wisdom" on display
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 12:12 PM
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9. Articles about the Quartet meeting in Munich
and discussing the protests in Egypt shed a bit of light on this group and its advisors.

Have to admit I did not really get the connection before even though it's readily available once I knew the terms went together.

I had heard Blair was "Mideast Peace Envoy" which always seemed off to me but didn't realize he was appointed that through this group.

So during this situation, two main people that were providing them input and advice were Tony Blair and Frank Wisner, who both have close ties to Mubarak.

Wisner's have been widely posted here.

And Blair seems to have previously enjoyed the same paid vacations courtesy of Mubarak that France's Prime Minister did:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/8312067/Egypt-French-prime-minister-enjoyed-free-holiday-courtesy-of-Mubarak.html

Tony Blair caused controversy when prime minister by accepting a Christmas holiday paid for by Mr Mubarak in 2001. Mr Blair, his wife Cherie and children Euan, Nicky, Kathryn and Leo, stayed at villas in Cairo and Sharm el-Sheikh. Accommodation and flights were provided by Mr Mubarak. In exchange, Mr Blair records that he made “donations” to a charity chosen by his hosts.


No surprise that they were advocating for Mubarak to stay in power.
Blair:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/02/tony-blair-mubarak-courageous-force-for-good-egypt

Wisner:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x366954#367776



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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 12:13 PM
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10. Great links
Edited on Sun Feb-13-11 12:14 PM by malaise
Thanks :hi:

These fuckers do not believe in anything but power.

add
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 12:25 PM
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12. Some dots really connected during this
Edited on Sun Feb-13-11 12:30 PM by suffragette
and the picture they formed wasn't pretty.

I'm glad you keep a spotlight on Blair.

He's still a very active player in the nexus of corporations and politics, being an advisor and envoy to the Quartet and to JP Morgan.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/jan/10/blairjpmorgan

And he even met with Obama before then PM Gordon Brown did:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2009/feb/05/blair-obama-first-friend


:hi:

ETA link to JP Morgan deal
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