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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 10:11 AM
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Given Recent Events In Egypt. Will They Dare To Cut SS?
Nervous governments all over the place...kings handing out cash, lawyers and judges protesting en mass in France, women marching in Italy. Lots of unrest and dissatisfaction. So will they dare to mess with SS here?
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 10:15 AM
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1. Yes...there has been no effective social protest in this country for decades...
The divide and conquer, dazzle them with bullshit techniques had worked like a charm time after time.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 10:21 AM
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4. I don't agree - AARP stop Bush from privatizing SS
and that was at the "Height of his Political Clout"

Even Senate and Congressional RATpubliCONs jumped off Bush's "Privatize Social Security" Band Wagon in droves at the time
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 11:04 AM
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6. Yes but AARP is a lobbying group that sometimes helps members...
and other times stabs them in the back.

WHEN WILL AARP GROW SOME BALLS?


By Frank Kaiser
Arguably half the $186 million Bush spent getting elected in 2000 was used to promise us seniors an effective Medicare drug benefit.
Of course, Bush's first act in office was to pass the massive $1.35 trillion tax cut which he knew would bleed dry funds for a drug benefit — or any benefit that didn't benefit the wealthy.

Bush's "comprehensive" drug plan has morphed into a hollow, legally questionable discount drug card, Bush's way of topping Reagan's catsup as vegetable.

Today, as the issue takes on new urgency, Bush fiddles while drug prices soar.

What really gets my gut rumbling are the e-mails, letters, and calls I get from readers, seniors unable to afford vital medicines. So many of the 14 million Medicare recipients without any drug coverage struggle each month to pay for both food and medicine.
-more-

http://www.suddenlysenior.com/aarpgrowballs.html
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 10:16 AM
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2. Well, the Republicans will certainly try to do that, as they have
been trying for decades now. The Obama administration has made it clear now that they have no intention of asking for those cuts.

On the other hand, Egyptian experiences don't directly correspond with ours here in the US. Very different conditions and mindsets. There's another election here in 2012. We have options available to us. As we've seen, our politicians are ever mindful of the brevity of their potential tenure in office.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 10:19 AM
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3. Of course they will, they will admit no connect.

Even if they speak of it in private they cannot admit it, that would give away the game. Because that would admit the commonality that we have with the Egyptian people, that of class.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 10:56 AM
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5. Sure they will. They feel they are untouchable............
Masters of the Universe. Why wouldn't they try to do what they've wanted to do for 80 years now. It's up to the working class/poor to stop them. BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 11:22 AM
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7. Have you seen any Americans in the streets, protesting?
If not, what is the connection to Egypt?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 11:46 AM
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8. The pols won't 'see' a connection. Nt
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tahrir Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 11:48 AM
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9. Yes, as they know if the SHTF here, they can easily transition to military rule
and the people will welcome them with thunderous applause.

clever bastids
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 12:17 PM
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10. They sure will. In the foreseeable future we will have a republican congress
and with all the new republican governors, look for a dodgy '12 presidential election.. republicans have run things for a very long time and they do not plan to stop anytime soon.

Think back to Clinton's democratic congress? not much real leftward movement, but we did end up with NAFTA & welfare reform from him:(

Obama accomplished lots in the lame duck and of course he got health care, but it was watered down so much , it's not all that it should have been, and now state-by-state it's being assaulted, in preparation for when SCOTUS declares the whole thing unconstitutional...and anything in the lame duck that was accomplished, can and will be UNdone.

A democratic president (Obama) will be cutting "entitlements" and undoing the home-loan guarantees put into place by the New Deal, so why would the rest of it be immune?

The goal here folks, is to undo the social safety net.. nothing short of that will suffice, and after we lose the senate in '12, ('14 looks even worse for dems), it will be a very bleak future.

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 12:23 PM
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11. Yes. The propaganda here in the US is stronger than existed
in Egypt. Egyptians knew they did not live in a democracy. Here, it is divided into flavors.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 12:29 PM
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12. Considering a large percentage of americans have been persuaded it's bad, then
I don't see there being much of a turnout.
Ask your everyday highschooler or college student what social security is. Based on those answers, you'll see there will be no protests.
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