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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 10:41 AM
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Steve King: Let's KILL The GOVERNMENT If Obama Won't KILL Health Care Reform
Edited on Fri Feb-11-11 10:42 AM by Segami


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" Here's how the Republicans' power over the purse could lead to an insoluble fight over spending, and, potentially, a government shutdown.


In a presentation at CPAC on Thursday, Rep. Steve King (R-IA) called on Republicans to hold the government hostage until President Obama abandons his dream of reforming the nation's health care system.


Or to put it in King's words: Republicans should do to "ObamaCare" what Democrats did to the Vietnam War.


Speaking to a small audience in CPAC's auxiliary meeting room -- where most of the social conservatives like King have been pushed this year -- King outlined his plan to use Congress' ability to shut down the government by refusing to fund it as means of pushing the health care reforms into an early grave.


The reform law signed by Obama last year includes what King called "self-enacting appropriations" -- mandatory spending -- which means they'll kick in on their own unless Congress passes a law to stop them.


King's plan: tell Obama that unless he agrees to kill that spending, the GOP will refuse to pass new legislation to fund the government, which runs out of money on March 4.


Without that legislation, the government would shut down. And, voilà: a government held for ransom.


King said he got the idea from the 1974 law Congress passed to forbid President Ford from continuing the war in Vietnam. The law that Congress forced Ford to sign forbade him and the treasury from funding any military action in, around or in the skies above Vietnam.

King said the '74 law was a "clear precedent" for Congress to rip out the automatic funding of the health care law.

"I disagreed with that decision Congress made in 1974," he said. "But I believe we have the foundation to shut off the automatic funding to ObamaCare."


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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 10:51 AM
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1. How 'bout starting with his cushy government job
Edited on Fri Feb-11-11 10:54 AM by somone
Idiot is a disgrace to the good people of Iowa
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 10:56 AM
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2. Two questions...
What rock did he crawl out from under, and can we find it to put him back?

He is such an embarrassment.
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hotsamich Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 11:39 AM
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7. Lobby for Closing 2-3 of Their Offices
These people do not serve the people, aren't going to do anything but cut people off. We need to call them, Boehner and say close 2 of your offices-it just costs the taxpayer, for nothing.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 12:26 PM
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15. Yes he is.
Sadly, people keep voting for him. :grr:

We'll lose a seat in the House next year so we're hoping he goes then. {fingers crossed}
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barbiegeek Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 11:11 AM
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3. I Dare him to shut down the VA hospital & through our disabled vets in the streets
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 11:14 AM
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6. I double dare him to bring back denials for pre-existing conditions
We used to put people this delusional into institutions under heavy medication; now we elect them to Congress.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 11:12 AM
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4. this guy belongs in a home.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 11:13 AM
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5. Yeah let's shut down the gummint!
It worked so well for us last time, right guys?


Guys?
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 11:42 AM
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8. He disagreed with ending the Vietnam War...
Jackass
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 11:58 AM
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13. Dems killed war by people like King refusing to fight in it
Dems are that good. Funny King is trying to kill health care reform while taking government health care.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 11:50 AM
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9. Yes, Mr. King, let's do that. Then you will stop getting a GOVERNMENT salary won't you?
You will also stop getting your free, GOVERNMENT sponsored, healthcare right?

You will have to pay your office staff out of your own pocket, instead of the FEDERAL --> GOVERNMENT <-- paying them from a budget given to you and all Congresspeople as GOVERNMENT politicians.

You won't have your expenses reimbursed by the GOVERNMENT anymore, so just send them to those lobbyists that already pay for your lunches, dinners, and material possessions.

Yes, let's shut down the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, which includes the U.S. Border Patrol, the FBI, and the Department of Homeland Security. Why are you soft on crime, and for allowing illegal aliens and turrirists to enter the country freely, since the GOVERNMENT won't be there to stop them?

Yes, let's shut down the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, and stop paying our toops as well. Why are you so anti-military? What happened to your Patriotism? You don't support the troops, I see.

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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 11:51 AM
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10. You drew the short stick, Steveo, and are first up on the chopping block!
Edited on Fri Feb-11-11 11:51 AM by City Lights
:dunce:
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 11:53 AM
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11. Deft use of the word "kill". Everything with Repubs involves violent imagery.
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 01:03 PM
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17. Its to hide their true yellow-streak nature. Their definition of ' bravery & courage ' is to send
someone else's family loved one ( never themselves or their family ) on the front lines to fight on behalf of their corporate wars disguised as liberation.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 11:56 AM
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12. Kill The Government, if Obama Kills Poor People!
Grab some courage and integrity, and Walk Like An Egyptian!
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 12:01 PM
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14. i'm sure you'll be the first one in the street throwing molotovs.
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 12:45 PM
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16. But SAVE THE EMBRYOS. Steve must enjoy watching them die without health care after they're born.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 01:08 PM
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18. What Dems did to the Vietnam War? Series? Did he really say that?
:triplefacepalm:
Does he not know the todays modern POTUS can start fake wars for profit and political control over a foreign regions main resource? IS HE THAT FUCKING STUPID OR JUST LYING?
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 01:09 PM
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19. Getting in the way of what is good for Americans, is a great way for the Republicans to
be shown the door.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 01:42 PM
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24. King knows that a smaller, weaker government means more power
for corporations, not the people.

Their framing the issue as a weaker government giving more power to the people is a lie. Corporations will fill the power vacuum. He knows that and so does his republican comrades.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 01:51 PM
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28. Absolutely. If enough Republican voters realize this, we'll handily out-vote the corporations in the
next election. And from then forward.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 04:53 PM
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30. I think that will be a good framing of the issue. How to
frame it is above my pay grade.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 02:48 PM
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31. "Republican voters: They're selling you to corporations!"
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 05:44 PM
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32. Small Government equals more corporate control over you
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 01:13 PM
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20. Fine. Let's start with YOU, Stevie.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 01:15 PM
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21. Political terrorism.
He hates America.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 01:20 PM
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22. Sounds like treason.
Edited on Fri Feb-11-11 01:35 PM by alfredo
So they want to dismantle our government. traitors
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 01:40 PM
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23. Well, they think themselves as ' patriots ' representing the people's wishes
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 01:43 PM
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25. They don't think that, they know a weaker government means
more powerful corporations.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 01:45 PM
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27. I also have these same thoughts
We the people should file law suits for treason.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 01:52 PM
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29. We also need to expose what is behind the small government
propaganda they spew.
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 01:45 PM
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26. Do it Stevie...........
You see how much it helped ol Newtie back in 95 (and Bob Dole's presidential hopes, too).

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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 05:49 PM
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33. Call his bluff. Let them shut it down...it will be on them
and I guarantee they won't come out of it looking so great.
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Dokkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 05:53 PM
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34. Out of all the repub crazies
Am most surprised that this one keeps getting reelected.
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