Michelle Obama wipes the floor with Palin without taking the bait (or mentioning her by name)

[Amerigo Vespucci]

"The vast majority of people understand" = "Palin doesn't understand" = Michelle ROCKS on this one.

:patriot:

Michelle Obama sidesteps criticism by Sarah Palin as she discusses anti-obesity campaign

First Lady Michelle Obama meets with reporters on the eve of the first anniversary of her anti-obesity campaign and also answers questions about her nonsmoking husband and her family's spirituality.

By Katherine Skiba, Chicago Tribune

February 8, 2011, 11:54 a.m.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-michelle-obama-20110209,0,6029391.story

First Lady Michelle Obama, meeting reporters on the eve of the first-year anniversary of her "Let's Move" anti-obesity campaign, found herself talking about more than diet and exercise.

She addressed smoking (she's "very proud" the president quit almost a year ago), choosing her wardrobe (she buys dresses, not designers) and keeping her marriage strong (lots of laughing helps).

Obama's campaign aims to end childhood obesity within a generation. About one-third of children are overweight or obese.

She was asked about criticism from Sarah Palin, who said the first lady didn't want people to eat dessert. Obama would not speak directly to Palin's charge, but said the vast majority of people understand that childhood obesity is a "real issue" and that parents, teachers and pediatricians are "grateful that we're having this conversation."

[HipChick]

1. 3-2-1 cue the snarky Palin response..

Because she can't help herself..

[Dorian Gray]

21. She's not capable of snark

that would take a modicum of intelligence. But, she will make some sort of ignorant statement, alienating more people.

[barbtries]

36. oh i think she does snark

to whatever extreme possible. the latest most amusing nickname for her i've seen is "joan of snark"

[barbtries]

34. you know it

but isn't this let-it-alone month? maybe we won't have our attention drawn to whatever she tweets.

heaven forbid she would ever admit she was just a snarky bitch without an argument on this issue.

[RandomThoughts]

2. note the game playing in last three recent posts

[RKP5637]

3. Palin is a fool that should be ignored. n/t

[pacalo]

4. Very classy answer. Ignoring such an exhibitionist person is the worst slam.

On the subject of keeping weight down, I've been genetically fortunate, but I've always been one to eat small portions & no second helpings. That said, I went to lunch at a fast-food restaurant with a second cousin & her family who are all overweight, & I saw firsthand the difference in eating habits. I ordered a small hamburger & a soft drink; everyone else, including a 5- & 12-yr. old, ordered a meal (large cheeseburger, large fries, large soft drink). While I was content after eating my hamburger, they each ordered pie for dessert.

I know genetics play a large role in weight problems, but a person does have the choice of how much food is consumed.

[Saphire]

5. I agree 100%

I worked with an overweight woman, and there were times when the amount of fast food crap she ate kinda made me gag. Really, who needs two double cheeseburgers, lg fries and large diet cokes? Sad, she was only 26.

[rbixby]

8. Gotta live the diet coke too

I'm sure the full effect of 'diet soda' made a big difference

[Dorian Gray]

22. People always joke about that...

but I'm someone who (the few times I order fast food) always gets diet soda. a) I like it better. (Real soda coats my teeth with sugar.), and b) I'd rather splurge on the fries than a real soda. Oh, and it's got more caffeine in it!

[fishwax]

33. I agree with you

I'd rather splurge on the fries (or some chocolate or whatever later) than on a real soda. I usually just get water anyway, but when I drink soda it's generally diet.

[Dorian Gray]

58. Definitely

I'd always prefer dessert to any sort of caloried drink. I've given up booze (except for special occasions) because I'd always rather have a piece of cake or some chocolate instead! YUM!

[Amerigo Vespucci]

9. I used to work with a woman who tried to mask her food consumption

When it was time for everyone to head out to lunch, she'd ask a half dozen different people to bring back one food item. One person might be fries, another might be a burger or a sandwich, etc.

If people were around when she was eating something large, like a big fully-loaded "super burrito" or something, she'd make a comment about how she was having a big lunch so she wouldn't have to go home and cook dinner.

That behavior worked its way into other areas, not just food. All in all she wasn't what I would call a nice person, and not particularly well-liked by the people in the office, but it was sad to witness.

I didn't "like" her, but I didn't go out of my way to "dislike" her either...if that makes any sense.

[Dorian Gray]

23. That's actually quite common

I used to hide what I ate, as well. (I've said elsewhere in this thread that I lost 100 lbs over the course of three years.) I was so ashamed of what I ate that I hid it (from myself and others). Now, even when I'm eating something terrible (like three pieces of Carvel ice cream cake at a friends birthday party), I do it "loud and proud." It took a long time to get comfortable with that, to be honest, but it's a common trait of people who overeat to hide it from people.

[blondeatlast]

35. I worked with a woman just like that too.

I mean, you describer her to a T.

[JitterbugPerfume]

48. all overweight people

do not eat like pigs and drink diet coke

[UnrepentantLiberal]

13. Very classy answer from a classy First Lady, and yeah,

you eat less, you want less at the next feeding. Simple as that. Quit thinking of food as "comforting" and think of it as sustenance. Letting your kids get fat when they're young is child abuse in my opinion. I've always thought that there must be Jewish blood in my family tree. My mom was depressed and the food SUCKED. I thank her for that now. (The food anyway.)

[Manifestor_of_Light]

17. do you know any fat people who eat very little?

Something like 30 to 40 million Americans have thyroid problems. Then there are other metabolic problems such as diabetes and adrenal exhaustion. Lots of people have autoimmune diseases/endocrine problems.

Not everyone who is overweight eats constantly. All my life people have urged me to eat more. I got yelled at by my grandmother and I refused to eat her crappy southern cooking. If someone urges me to eat more, I will get mad at them because that is one of my hot buttons. I can't stand it! I eat when I am hungry and I stop when I am full. I don't eat when I am bored or lonely. I eat small portions and I don't eat salty or spicy food or fast food, or cola.

Most people on DU think fat is a moral failing. Also there are drugs that have side effects including weight gain.

[Maraya1969]

19. I have gotten more help for some of those problems by using

natural remedies. I didn't even know I had adrenal fatigue until I went to a holistic doctor.

Best of luck to you in finding help.

[AlbertCat]

54. I didn't even know I had adrenal fatigue until I went to a holistic doctor.

I'll bet you didn't! :eyes:

[Manifestor_of_Light]

57. My doctor ignores my adrenal fatigue.

They tell me to get exercise -- I went to the gym and spent ten minutes on the treadmill, maximum speed 3 mph.
That's not a lot of exertion. I went home and CRASHED for 14 hours straight. That is a clear indication of adrenal exhaustion.
They refuse to give me any prednisone because they are scared shitless it will "shut down my adrenals".

Well guess what? I think they shut down over 20 years ago when I crashed physically from a divorce and got pneumonia from non-pathogenic bacteria. That is a big clue. I was in and out of the hospital and emergency rooms with respiratory hell for five or six years.

My condition that slowed my metabolism happened when I was ELEVEN YEARS OLD. My thyroid died and I got Hashimoto's disease, the most common cause of dead thyroids, and it's hereditary and autoimmune. My mother had the same thing happen at the same age - she was put on armour back during the Depression.

I was not fat when I was a kid. I gradually added weight over the decades as I got older.

The adrenals and the thyroid work together.

I have seen a plastic surgeon and was told that I would have to go to an internist for a diet program (restricted calories don't work - I wasted lots of time and money on a bariatric dr. who did that) and if that didn't work I would need a stomach bypass to lose weight.


More info:
www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

[Maraya1969]

76. RE the T4 only club

I think that is why my doctor only prescribes one thyroid pill when I was getting 2 while in the hospital with a really good doctor. I gave them the test results and because the T4? was only a bit higher than the low range they figure I don't need the pill.

I can't stand doctors who don't read up on the latest news in their field.

[Maraya1969]

82. Have you ever tried Weight Watchers? I swear it works and it is really easy

They sell plenty of WW deserts and ice cream and bread and a ton of things that really make a difference in the amount of fat and calories you take in.

If I follow WW I lose weight. If not I gain weight. It sucks but at least their are deserts!

[Maraya1969]

81. Holistic doctors do blood tests to find these things out. They don't

just guess. The C-Reactive Protein blood test was given to me many years ago. Now I see after all these years that regular doctors are checking it too.

[Dorian Gray]

24. I don't think most people at DU

think fat is a moral failing. There are those who never had issues with food or extra weight who don't understand, but I think that, for the most part, people are very supportive here. (I'm sure I'll read a comment in this thread that makes me regret these words. LOL!)

I do think that the majority of overweight children, however, are overweight because of too much food and too little movement. They are too young to have developed conditions or be on medications that would make it difficult for them to lose weight. Which is why the First Lady's initiative is so important. There are food deserts in big cities, and making families aware of healthier choices (and making those choices available) is imperative.

[AlbertCat]

53. Most people on DU think fat is a moral failing.

Do they?
You have a graph or something?

I'd say most PEOPLE think MOST fat comes from eating.... which seems perfectly logical.

But I'd hope most people get over the infantile ridicule of those who are over weight by the time they get older.... and maybe start putting on a little weight themselves.


And this skinny as a rail ideal we see in fashion mags and in media raises my eyebrow more than people with some booty.

[Maraya1969]

77. Joan Collins said in an interview that all the plastic surgery

is making Hollywood out to be a bunch of clones. I remember watching Miss America or one of those pageants and watching the girls thighs and not one had curvy thighs. They were all straight like tall skinny models. That is 50 girls with no curves. Some had to have surgery.

[laundry_queen]

55. I don't know about most, but there are quite a few.

I think overall that DU is more understanding than the general population is.

I understand about the drugs too - think about anti-depressant use now versus 20 years ago (I know correlation is not causation, but anti-depressant use has increased as has obesity). I was on a particular medication that was not supposed to cause weight gain. And at first, it didn't. But over the course of 3 years, during the last year I mysteriously gained 60 lbs. I was baffled. For other reasons, I then went off the drug and lost 60 lbs in 2.5 months! I'm not sure why I didn't gain in those first 2 years but the effect when I went off was quite sudden.

As for kids - some of them are just made 'thicker'. I do like Michelle Obama's approach "I'm not telling you that you can't take your kid out for a burger, that would be unrealistic" but some kids are just born 'thicker'. My 2 oldest daughters are like night and day when it comes to their build. DD #1 was tiny as a baby/toddler, and stayed super slim as she got older. She is still slim as a teen, and eats like a horse, and eats a lot of junk food (that's pretty much what her and her friends do for entertainment, go out to eat with their spending money). She's also pretty sendentary. DD #2 on the other hand, was a very chubby baby. Where with DD#1 I was told of ways to fatten her up (was told to give her a lot of things like bacon, put cream in her glass of whole milk, etc) with DD #2 I was told to watch her weight at 7 months when she was 27 lbs (and exclusively breastfed with no solids at that point). DD #2 was a giant toddler, in size 5 clothes by the age of 2. And she ate ok as a toddler, but as she got older, she became super picky. It's hard to get her to eat more than a few bites at any meal anymore, unless it's a favorite food. She's crazy active, always playing outside, running around, going to dance class, and anything else she can come up with. Her and her friends go swimming or jump on the trampoline for entertainment. And yet, she's far from thin (she's not fat either, but she is 'thicker' than her sister). Both DDs have similar diets at home, and while they were younger. They are just very different. And they were born that way. I would be livid if someone suggested DD #2 needs to eat less or healthier because she's not as slim as her sister. I really think we have to do away with the BMI - which is just a fancy height/weight ratio chart. People are built differently. Some can eat more and not gain weight and some eat less and struggle. I always am annoyed when people mention about fat people eating tons at some fast food place. Look around - lots of skinny people are doing the same thing.

Another thing- it doesn't take huge amounts of food to make someone fat. A few extra slices of bread a week - say 3 slices at 100 cals each - would add roughly 4.3 lbs/year. After 15 years that is 64 lbs! Imagine someone who has a slightly impaired metabolism - say burns 30 cals less per day than normal - and eats normally. That minute amount adds up quickly. A combination of the 2 and you have someone who can become super obese in 20 years. So when you see a fat person eating 'lots' remember, some skinny people eat lots too. I have an ex that used to eat 5 burgers at a time. He was skinny at the time. Over the years, as he became less active he did gain some weight, but it sure didn't take much for him to lose that weight. He would just cut out eating out from time to time, and the weight would disappear. For me, OTOH, I would work out 1.5 hrs per day (cardio and weights) and over 6 months of doing that, I only lost 10 lbs. Crazy. I guess my point is - don't judge. Hopefully one day you won't need a medication that will put 60 lbs on your 5 foot frame, or that you won't develop insulin resistance which makes you feel famished every 2 hours. You never know when it will be you.

[treestar]

59. Age and anti-depressants

I eat half of what I used to when I was young! Yet I am much heavier.

[Mimosa]

79. The less people know the more anecdotes

Plenty of heavy people eat normally. And obesity can be caused by medical (such as hypothyroidism or Cushing'ss disease) or hereditary factors. Native Americans often have obesity problems because they have more efficient fat storage because of the centuries long heritage of feast or famine conditions. Also most Native Americans didn't eat mainly carbohydrates, but meats. They were hunter gatherers more than being farmers.

[ixion]

6. Ban HFCS and we're well on the way

that would be a serious start.

[JuniperLea]

10. We are Children of the Corn!

Yep, that would be a very serious start!

:applause:

[UnrepentantLiberal]

14. Did someone say corn syrup?

[JuniperLea]

15. Only the High Fructose variety!

But it's icky stuff.

[Dorian Gray]

25. Too funny

It's true! Children of the Corn (subsidies!). LOL!

[james0tucson]

37. It would be...

If only there was actual evidence that HFCS is worse than cane sugar.

[CLANG]

40. The Quick and Dirty on High Fructose Corn Syrup

Most foods that contain high fructose corn syrup are highly-processed, calorie-dense foods without a lot of nutritional value. Avoiding this ingredient will take a lot of unhealthy foods out of your diet. I’m all for it! Just don’t confuse the carrier with the culprit. All added sugars (including natural sugars like honey and agave nectar) contain fructose and can increase your risk of weight gain if you consume them in excess.

[HankyDubs]

56. here ya go!

http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S26/91/22K07/

[ixion]

63. Hey, don't let me stop you...

Bon Appetite. :evilgrin:

[Saphire]

7. Michelle vs. Sarah....class vs. ass.

[lpbk2713]

11. Failin is a lightweight.

An idiot like the half-gov is not worth wasting any words on.
And I'm sure our First Lady knows this is true.

[closeupready]

12. Michelle is a class act, 100%.

K&R

[devilgrrl]

16. Michelle Obama went to Princeton University.

What else needs to be explained?

[leftynyc]

27. And bush went to Yale

and pinhead o'reilly went to Harvard. What was your point again?


Our fabulous first lady is the way she is because of how she was raised - by decent hardworking people who valued an education. sarah was apparently raised in a barn with feral cats.

[Divernan]

30. The 2 feral cats I rescued are sweet & loving - not at all like Palin.

[Name removed]

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[LynneSin]

44. Bush wouldn't have went to Yale if he came from Michelle Obama's background

Michelle didn't have any fancy relatives that pulled strings to help her get into Princeton. If Bush wasn't a legacy child of Yale he probably would have had the same educational background that Sarah Palin had. More than likely he would have ended up in Vietnam.

[devilgrrl]

46. Thank you.

Don't expect that one to get it though.

[devilgrrl]

62. Obama went to Harvard - guess he's a dolt too!!!!

:hi:

[Major Hogwash]

18. Michelle is fantastic. I really, really, really like the First Lady.

I mean that, I'm not just saying that to gain points here either.
I really and truly like her.

[Dorian Gray]

20. I think that her

bringing attention to childhood obesity is really really important. Sarah Palin's ignorance... (on every subject)... notwithstanding, I'm happy that she is prompting this dialogue nationwide. Moving and eating well are important factors in a long and healthy life, and if we can help people understand that, then we can help people fight the battle of the bulge. This is a cause I can get behind. Big time.

(I lost 100 lbs before I got pregnant last year, so I know how tough it can be. It took me three years to lose all that weight, and I've educated myself about health and nutrition... with the help of my doctor and a nutritionist -- paid for by my health insurance. I know not everybody has that luxury, though.)

[badgerpup]

29. Think I remember a study way back when...

...it was A REALLY BIG EFFIN' DEAL! Women (and by extrapolation, girls) could actually PLAY SPORTS! :wow:
And without breaking our tiny little fragile ankles or getting our poor little brains all overheated...
:sarcasm:


Study showed that lots of exercise in childhood made for strong, dense bones (and less chance of osteoporosis :thumbsup:) in adulthood.
Even (especially!) for women! :wow:

Who'da thunk it?


Makes me grateful I was never a girly-girl, but an active "I'm as strong as any boy!"-type tomboy.
With all the other things I'm dealing with, at least me bones are still good and strong...

[Vinca]

26. Great response.

[Mad_Dem_X]

28. Our First Lady is a class act. n/t

[humbled_opinion]

31. Personally, I don't have a problem with

The First Lady's Lets move campaign, but that's where it should end, getting people motivated to exercise is always a good thing. However, I will be damned if I want the government telling me what my children or I should and should not eat, portion control and forcing me to eat a certain way is way out of line and non of the governments business. If we start done this road of allowing govt to dictate to us then that is exactly what we will end up with a dictatorship. ENOUGH !!

[barbtries]

38. she's trying to force you to eat a certain way?

to "force" this on you?

please enlighten me as to where the first lady is applying force to this campaign.

[humbled_opinion]

64. Thats not what I said

I see you were looking for a fight and you took it out of context, what I said is that it is non of GOVERNMENTS business what and how I and my children eat. If you wish to give these freedoms up thats fine go right ahead but you will respect my option not too....

[barbtries]

73. "forcing me to eat a certain way"

direct quote.
and this is not a "fight" - something i never look for.

[florida08]

45. yes please

explain how suggesting and providing information is forcing.

[humbled_opinion]

65. Sheesh another one...

context much? Anyway you want to give up your freedom to eat what you want thats fine but dont force it on me here is a piece for reference to what I am talking about.

http://www.torontolife.com/daily/daily-dish/pantry-raid/2010/03/11/new-york-considering-banning-salt-in-restaurant-kitchens%E2%80%94no-really/

Whats next, if you continue to eat that fatty food and sugery food you won't be able to get any healthcare? Is that next?

[Stellar]

47. I guess just like $arah...

..it's all about you.

I've read where some t-people say she can't tell me what to do, get government out of 'my' business.

But those same people love to stay in my virj-j and want the government to stay up there too.

Now that my dear is personal. What I do with it is between me, my Doctor and my husband, and you guys are not welcome in to it.

[humbled_opinion]

66. WHAT?

My comments are directly in support of the government staying out of your Virj-j...... What don't you get? You would rather give government the right to tell you what to eat extrapolate that a little bit more and you have dictatorship....period....

[callous taoboy]

50. Why stop there? Let's get the gov out of transportation safety as well.

I mean, I'm tired of paying more for my automobile because of all of the gov-mandated safety features. It should be my right to drive a car without working headlights, and without seat belts and air bags.

[humbled_opinion]

67. ???

False equivelancy.... far cry from the govt mandating that a product meet safety standards before you can buy it and telling you not to eat ICE CREAM or deciding when your too fat or too ill etc....

[callous taoboy]

68. Why do you have such a bee in your bonnet about this?

You will be able to eat all of the ice cream you want, till the end of time. How is an anti-obesity campaign aimed at a nation of well over-fed clowns any different than JFK's campaign of personal fitness? Did you know that JFK's campaign actually helped increase federal funding to get more physical fitness programs into public schools? How can that, or Mrs. Obama's campaign, be any different, and how on earth could a suggestion, NOT a law, that we decrease the fatness, or at the very least be aware that being over-weight is bad for your health, be bad? I work at a public school with too many fat kids that are setting themselves up for a lifetime of health issues related to obesity. If what Mrs. Obama is doing ultimately results in school lunch programs getting leaner we will be better off for it, and if someone wants their kid to bring ice cream and oreos to school for lunch that will still be their right.

[humbled_opinion]

69. Yes I agree that it seems harmless....

I don't really have a problem with the program, I have a problem with the Process. Of course put information on packages how long have we told smokers they will get sick, but you see the slippery slope of government involvement when it creeps in... suddenly you can't smoke anywhere near anyone anymore, if you live in an apartment they may not let you contineu to live there if you smoke.... Where is that smoking hotel room? Soon you won't be allowed to smoke in public... and the taxes raised on all tobacco products to feed government programs and the smokers become the scorned objects, you do realize that some people really can't quit, right? So lets continue to punish those that need our help the most, somehow making it so obviously taboo to smoke a cig or say eat a Quarter Pounder... but I digress...

What about people that can't lose weight so easily? What about people that have real problems limiting themselves from different kinds of foods maybe they shouldn't eat..... Since when do we need our government creating an enviornment where it extols the virtues of a particular behavior.... My point more clearly is that it is not the business of the Federal government to involve itself so completely in our lives. Now again don't read into my statements I started this by saying that the First Lady has every right to sponsor a program that entices our youth to educate themselves on the dangers of obesity and to get people to get more active lifestyles...... but if you follow my points then the question is..
Do you really want a President Palin to have an excuse to allow government to dictate what you can and cannot do with your own body? Be very careful how much power you give the government because tomorrow you may not have the same people in charge of government as you do today and "absolute power corrupts absolutely".....

So I will continue to kick and scream.... I have that right....for now .... and I will assume for the sake of argurment that you will support my right to kick and scream...

[callous taoboy]

71. I fully support anyone's right to kick and scream.

I just don't connect her program with the government taking over and dictating, by law, what you can and cannot eat. Even the piece you posted on the possibility of salt being banned in NYC kitchens I think may actually be a good thing, and you'd still be able to use the salt provided at the table. Now, in terms of the smoking argument I think you are comparing apples and oranges (which, interestingly enough, may no longer be a useful analogy since they have found that apples and oranges are very similar in their DNA, but I digress). You eat 5 quarter pounders a day for 50 years and keel over dead from the inevitable coronary....well, that's your business. But second-hand smoke, and even the residue left behind by cigarette smoke in hotel rooms, rented spaces etc., has been proven without a shadow of a doubt to be extremely unhealthy. A person's right to smoke ends when their smoke invades space that I, a dedicated non-smoker, pay for as well. If it is a public space paid for by my tax dollars....same thing. Yes, we both help fund that public space but I, the non-smoker, am not engaging in an activity that has been proven extremely unhealthy, whereas the smoker leeching toxic fumes into my space is. I just don't think smokers have an argument there, and though some continue to kick and fuss about it they are losing ground and fast and I say it's about time. The major city that I live close to outlawed smoking in bars 3 years ago and I now enjoy going to bars, plus the smokers' outcry that this would ruin bar business turned out to be untrue. And where is that smoking hotel room? The last two times I paid for a non-smoking room it positively reeked of stale cigarette smoke.

All of this gets particularly sticky when you throw in the debate over government health care: Should I help foot the hospital bill of someone who over-salted, smoked, and had other habits, like a strong Ben and Jerry's addiction, that they knew would probably compromise their health? That's when many will kick and scream.

[humbled_opinion]

72. LOL....

You actually understood my point your last statement summed it up nicely... Should you foot the bill? Don't you now?

Kicking and screaming, exactly Kicking and Screaming!!

Trying to keep up with the political process, trying to determine if elected officials are actually doing the right thing for their constituents, which ones are dirty, unethical, corrupt. Bombarded with misinformation and talking points hoisted on the American people thru the corporate media and propagandized on so called news sites. Endless debate, moral aboslutists, arguing over and over about things that seem like common sense, to some. Human rights for all? LOL... or some, Terra, Terra all around you don't look now.... BOOM...

All of these things result in increased blood preassure, incivility, flaring tempers, road rage, violence, and ultimately premature death.

Will that same evolution that took hold of the once benign cigaretee smoke that filled every eating establishment, and hospital room too.... find its way to these other "harmless" (for now) things that we do?

I will fight the endless fight to ensure that in America the government never accumulates the power to make that happen but too many people seem so willing to just give that power away.... so it is possible that in the future we will be programmed and told that we must all quit this nonsense, no more political blogs, no more debate, no more campaigns or elections its all unhealthy and all as pervasive as that second hand smoke you mentioned.....

Kicking and Screaming !!!

[callous taoboy]

74. You're all right, humbled. I understand your point

and I, too, feel bombarded. I guess all I can say is that you have to sift through all of the detritus you mentioned and try to come up with some things that make sense and will aid in survival. I don't see what has transpired so far in the U.S. as heading too far into totalitarianism. What we have here in the U.S. is a process. I was greatly alarmed by what our gov was doing during the Bush regime, but what those miscreants were trying to do came back and bit them on the ass and left them utterly discredited. I really liked your last post because your tone actually reflects my state of mind a lot of the time- overwhelmed and wary. I am a teacher, and the crap rolling down hill onto teachers' heads just gives me vertigo most of the time. You know how Bush et.al. rolled into Iraq and decimated the place? Same thing was done to public education. IT is a wasteland where nothing works very well any more.

Cheers:
CT

[humbled_opinion]

83. Totally Agree ...

:toast:

[JDPriestly]

39. Eat lots of vegetables. Homegrown or organically grown really taste better.

And eat fruit for dessert. I can't say I never eat dessert. Sometimes I eat too many sweets, but oranges, apples and other fruits are the best desserts.

Palin burns a lot of calories because she is so nervous. Actually, Palin's jittery nature kind of gets tiring.

Michelle Obama is a calm, but stronger person that Palin. Palin is too jumpy. But you burn a lot of calories when you fidget a lot.

[Marnie]

41. There is much about Obama's poliltics I don't like, but

the Obamas are classy people.


The Palins are white trash. It doesn't matter how rich they get they just can't seem to gain any grace or perspective.

Sarah's incessant snarky high school level comments about Michelle and Barack and Biden have long passed into a degree of infantile bitterness and pettiness that one would think she would eventually realize and grow up. If she can't or won't shut up at least she could criticize people like she is an intelligent informed emotionally stable adult, not the bitter little piss ant that the is.

http://www.westegg.com/nash/ant.html
The Ant
by Ogden Nash
The ant has made himself illustrious
Through constant industry industrious.
So what?
Would you be calm and placid
If you were full of formic acid?

[florida08]

42. very nice

In gracious words she rendered the Palin irrelevant.

[LynneSin]

43. Class vs. Crass - Class will always win

You go Michelle!

[callous taoboy]

49. Let's get real about corporate owned school lunch programs feeding kids SHIT.

There is no excuse for serving kids swill other than greed.

[saras]

51. Avoiding Highly Fuckedup Corn Syrup...

...is a crude but effective way of removing lots of harmful food from your diet without having to spend an enormous amount of time on research. Just don't eat the stuff. Whatever alternatives you find will nearly always be better for you, or at least not worse.

It's not perfect, but it doesn't need to be. Neither do you.

[Mimosa]

80. That junk is in nearly EVERYTHING, even breads and meats.

If people read labels (I do, compulsively) they'd be amazed how many foods are loaded with HFCS. Now the manufacturers are trying to rename it corn sugar.

[Chimichurri]

52. Michelle Obama schooled Sarah with her class!

:P

[treestar]

60. Sarah Palin is a moron

Yes, I know, Captain Obvious. People who are overweight do need to skip dessert.

What an Idiot? Oh, did I mention that Palin is stupid?

[ecstatic]

61. Is Michelle a former smoker?

Most non-smokers would never date a smoker so I'm just curious!

[humbled_opinion]

70. Holy Crap....

Now I will add that tidbit to my list....

[callous taoboy]

75. I'd die if you actually had a list of speculations, humbled!

You freakin' kill me!

[southernyankeebelle]

78. Love it that the Obama's don't give her the attention she craves & that upsets her.