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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 02:08 PM
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" do we want to glorify a dessert that lists lard as its primary ingredient?"
PORTLAND, Maine — In Europe, countries are consumed by debt. In Washington, the health care debate rages on. And in Maine, the whoopie pie is under attack.

Efforts to anoint the traditional Maine sweet as the official state dessert have divided Down Easters and raised ire among the nutrition-conscious, who say that the state is beset with obesity as it is without venerating two mounds of chocolate cake bound by a sugary, creamy filling. And now another renowned Maine treat — the blueberry pie — has been dragged into the fray.

The kitchen kerfuffle comes as a surprise to whoopie pie makers, who handed out dozens of the cakey treats to lawmakers at a legislative hearing on the matter this week and testified to the virtue of the confection as a local economic engine and beloved part of Maine’s heritage for decades.

But the whoopie pie’s swift ascension to the official Maine dessert hit a snag when state Representative Donald Pilon withheld support and derided the confection as a “frosting delivery vehicle.’’

“At a time when 31.3 percent of Maine’s children are considered overweight or obese, do we want to glorify a dessert that lists lard as its primary ingredient?’’ Pilon asked his fellow lawmakers at the hearing on Monday.

http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2011/02/04/pangs_of_dissent_as_maine_reaches_for_the_whoopie_pie/
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 02:34 PM
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1. I don't have a problem with the lard
Its the sugar that I can't tolerate. Same for the blueberry pie.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 02:35 PM
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2. Maine's governor is a giant Whoopie
cushion.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 02:37 PM
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3. First of all, the entire notion of having a political battle over a state dessert is rather bizarre,
Secondly, having this kerfluffle over whether or not this dessert is healthy or not is really bizarre. I mean really now, we're talking about dessert here, which is, by its very nature, not terribly healthy for you, be that dessert whoopie pie, blueberry pie, cheese cake, whatever. It's dessert, it's going to add on the pounds, eat in moderation, geez.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 02:39 PM
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4. More Bread and Circus distraction from real issues.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 02:43 PM
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5. Don't you mean pie and pig distraction?
Edited on Sat Feb-05-11 02:43 PM by snagglepuss
:evilgrin:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 02:51 PM
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9. Yep. Much more accurate.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 02:46 PM
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6. So? Moxie is the official Maine State soft drink
Why not Whoopie Pies?

:shrug:
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 02:48 PM
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7. Cause just having them listed somewhere makes kids fat, they are powerless against the dark
side of the whoopie pies.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 02:48 PM
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8. Whoopie Pies can be made without lard, for god's sake
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 02:53 PM
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11. duh. Guess they never thought of that.....
Edited on Sat Feb-05-11 02:54 PM by BrklynLiberal
Lots of commercial baked goods no longer use lard..or even saturated vegetable shorteniing...
There are endless alternatives.

http://whatscookingamerica.net/History/WhoopiePieHistory.htm
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 03:05 PM
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15. I agree. Just use trans fats. nm
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 09:47 PM
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23. these days vegetable shortening is made without trans fats
don't ask me how
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 09:45 PM
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22. I grew up in Maine and didn't know anyone who made them with lard.
It was always Crisco.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 02:52 PM
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10. They could always VOTE on a STATE
Gun.
:hide:

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 04:27 PM
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17. State Guns
Most folks here (Maine) have more than one gun. I have one for every occasion.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 02:56 PM
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12. I thought it would be about spotted dick
Which I could get past the lard, it was the raisins that turned me off, lol.

Whoopie pies are just glorified gobs.

-Hoot
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 02:58 PM
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13. Better lard and sugar than transfat and articifial sweetners!
Seriously, I've found if I eat desserts made with real ingredients rather than engineered ones, I eat less. That is completely apart from the debates over which of the engineered ingredients may be worse for us than natural ones. There seems to be more of an "OFF" switch in my brain for satiation with natural ingredients.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 03:04 PM
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14. I don't eat whoopie pies, but I make my pie crusts with lard.
Best pie crusts ever. I don't make many pies, but they all have crusts that use lard. The comments from the people I serve them to tell the story. I don't tell my secret, though. BTW, I don't serve pie crusts to vegetarians, if you were wondering. They don't get a pie...just good vegetarian recipes, of which I have many. My buddhist stew and my lentil mushroom loaf are legendary.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 04:09 PM
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16. lard is the only way to make the best pie crusts.
If the health nut crowd doesn't like it, they can chew on a celery stick.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 04:33 PM
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18. Could lard be considered a protein? n/t
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 04:43 PM
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20. Since it's basically 100% fat, no.
Edited on Sat Feb-05-11 04:43 PM by eppur_se_muova
But if we're going to call catsup a vegetable, who knows what could happen ...
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 04:43 PM
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19. Hell yes!!! Anything made with lard should be glorified...
Seriously, though...I don't see what the problem is.

Just because it would be the state dessert, that doesn't mean people have to wolf them down by the handful each day.

One a month with an otherwise healthy diet...what's wrong with that?


Would making fried liver the state meat make it any more appetizing?
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 04:53 PM
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21. Lard is certainly better than hydrogenated crap
I don't see why lard, of all fats, should get such a bad rep.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 10:04 PM
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24. Nothing wrong with lard. It's SHORTENING that's dangerous.
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