A thread for Smokers

[canetoad]

(Non-smokers may attend, please remember this is OUR home and we smoke in it.)

Anyone among you ever-dwindling number of puffers notice that the busier the news with big world events, the fewer the 300-reply anti-smoking threads are?

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[Trajan]

1. 35 days smoke free and counting

Puff away, COPD boy !

[canetoad]

2. You seem OK

for a reformed smoker :hi:

[Trajan]

3. Mama died last year ..... She taught me two things

1) Be kind to strangers

2) Long term smoking turns your lungs into painful and utterly useless appendages ....


After 41 years of smoking, I have taken the hint, and cutting bait ....

35 days has restored at least 10% of capacity .... The classic 'ton of bricks' has lifted from my chest and left the building ....

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[joshcryer]

8. Basically it's either die from lung cancer or die from heart disease.

I'd argue that COPD/lung cancer is worse, unless you get pneumonia. Then you just quietly choke to death on your own lungs filling with crap.

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[kster]

18. 100% of smokers as well as non-smokers will die

thats a fact.

[azurnoir]

21. on that thought and stats on death from COPD

my Mom passed away in 2009 she was having breakfast with a friend and suddenly collapsed, never regained consciousness and died 72 hours later after being taken off life support, she had bee diagnosed with pancreatic cancer 6 months earlier but was still in the initial phases of the disease, verbally we were told apparent stroke or cerebral accident, however her death certificate reads -COPD why because years ago she was a smoker and we declined an autopsy. My sister who works in the county coroners office of medium sized mid-western city tells me that me that COPD is the 'dumping ground' cause of death and routinely listed in cases like this when the family does not want an autopsy and the deceased was evera smoker or ever lived with a smoker, which lends itself to question how 'real' are those stats? I am not saying smoking is not harmful, but perhaps the stats are just a tad inflated

[Trajan]

30. Um .... I have COPD ....

and I am still here, telling you this ... I can assure you it is quite real

Are you going to deny someone their bronchitis and emphysema ? ... You do realize that COPD covers most conditions that 'obstructs' respiration, right ?


But perhaps all those unautopsied ex smokers actually died from .... um .... What did they die of again ? ....

You seem to know what they DIDNT die from, so perhaps you can explain, in the wisdom you acquired from medium sized mid-western cities: What did those people die from ?


I think this is known as 'Argumentum Ad Ignorantium" ... appeal from ignorance ....

This sounds so much like junkie denial ....

[azurnoir]

32. I never said COPD wasn't real Isaid perhaps the stats are artificially inflated

you seem quite combative, I gave you an example of someone who had most likely not died from COPD but that was listed as cause of death anyway and someone who BTW had never been previously diagnosed with COPD.

[WillowTree]

29. YOU GO!!! I hit the 9 month mark last week. It can be done!

[kster]

5. We need more of these threads

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I try to stop smoking on a regular basis. But

Where will NY go next? No smoking in bars? No smoking on the beach? No smoking in your house? No smoking in your car? Whats next........ Woman can not buy smokes?

seems like this is the playbook they are following...

http://www.smokescam.com/nazias.htm

[PoliticAverse]

6. NYC already has a ban against smoking in bars and restaurants. n/t

[kster]

11. I know whats next Woman can't buy smokes?

http://www.smokescam.com/nazias.htm

[canetoad]

15. They'll be banning alcohol next

[pipi_k]

28. I know it' not probable, but...

it really wouldn't bother me if they did ban alcohol.

Next to lung cancer it's got to be one of the worst ways to die. I'm currently watching my younger brother...40 years old...die from liver and kidney failure from alcoholism.

It's horrible. He's receiving hospice services now, for the past three days...critical care...nurse is there 24 hours. He was bleeding from just about every orifice, plus his body is covered with bleeding sores.

He went to Florida a week ago to visit our mom and one of our sisters and just deteriorated in front of them. He's now staying with my sister, who thankfully was able to get hospice services for him.

Just before Xmas he was in the hospital on life support, not expected to live. He did.

My mom said he's suffering terribly.

Only someone who's been through this can know the daily horror of waiting for "the phone call".


He's not the first one I've seen die from alcoholism.

Outlaw alcohol....I wouldn't care.

:(

[kster]

33. Probably, when like minded adults are banned from having any public

places that they can go for a drink and a smoke together its a sad day in America.

[Dorian Gray]

26. And now on beaches

and parks.

I'm glad I quit six years ago. It was difficult, but it makes life a lot easier now that there is nowhere to smoke. Except in my Mother In Law's house. There, you HAVE to smoke. If you don't, you aren't welcome!

[underseasurveyor]

7. 3 1/2 years tobacco free

:bounce:
and I don't miss it for one second!

[kster]

9. Congratulations

[underseasurveyor]

12. Thanks

30+ years I smoked. There was a time in my life when I thought I'd be a smoker all my life. It seemed a part of who I was. Now I can't remember myself nor think of myself as a smoker.



I'M FREE :-)

[greyl]

13. Start vaping. nt

[canetoad]

14. That's for amateurs

Real smokers stuff their mouths full of full strength tobacco then set fire to it.

[greyl]

16. Some veterans learn, others dig in and resolve to be fragged. ;) nt

[comtec]

17. only smoking for a year or so

my divorce, and living with that woman drove me to it.
It was the only moment in the day that i felt any kind of peace and release.
i'm finally de-stressing to the point that I can quit.
I don't feel the pull as strongly as i did a few months ago.

i'll probably quit completely within a month.
i'm a little spastic, and my interest has really disappeared.

[MGB67deux]

19. I smoke a pipe...

and have done so for about thirty years. I find that I do a whole lot more fiddling than smoking and when I do puff there are far fewer poisons (pyrenes and such).

Before that I smoked cigarettes for 20 years and did chain smoke in the service (Marlboros were a buck a carton) and were also supplied free in k rats (or were they C rats? It has been awhile).

[PoliticAverse]

20. Do people here think that the new electronic cigarettes...

have the potential to revolutionize smoking as we know it and eventually completely replace the regular kind?

They seem to largely solve the "secondhand smoke" issue and hence may be more resistant to arguments used for bans.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

24. Yes, smoke-free for 5 plus months and I use ecigs. I smoked for 43 years, 3 packs a day.

They truly are revolutionary.

[reggie the dog]

22. only reefer, but yeah i smoke

i haven't smoked tobacco in 14 years, no alcohol for 10 years, but i smoke some weed or hash every day and have for the past 18 years

[dipsydoodle]

23. And a thread

for those with a loose button.

[Vickers]

25. I smoked for 19 years, and quit a little over 12 years ago.

I enjoyed it up until my last cigarette...but a little relay *clicked* in my head one day, and I just quit.

I make no judgments on anyone.

I hope your relay *clicks* one day.

:thumbsup:

[Inspired]

27. I smoked for many, many years and loved it.

I had to quit when I developed arterial disease. It didn't take much effort when the Dr. told me I had to quit if I wanted to keep my legs. I was lucky to get this wake up call when I did. However, I don't judge anyone who smokes. When I think of heaven, I think of the first cup of morning coffee and a lit cigarette. Only someone who has ever smoked could understand how yummy that sounds. I miss it every day and understand why people continue to smoke in spite of it all.

[MilesColtrane]

31. I'm down to two a day.

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