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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-11 11:49 PM
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Rumsfeld Overheard: "War Lies Are Cool Now"
Donald Rumsfeld began his new book tour with some frank comments, including these:

"War lies? Does anybody really give a rat's ass now? You know what? You know what? They do. They do because war lies are actually cool now. We began the invasion of Iraq in October 2001, but the invasion of Iraq paid off."

Rumsfeld revealed the strategy behind the revelations made in his book about the illegal secret operations he helped set in motion shortly after the terrorist acts of September 11, 2001:

"Former President Bush has not admitted to torture or fraud or aggression or the rest of it, and do you know why? You do know why, but it is an unknown known, if you know what I mean. Yes, it is funny. He hasn't admitted to any such things because he has chosen to claim them proudly instead.

"Did I say I knew where the WMDs were? Did I say I had bullet proof evidence of ties between Iraq and al Qaeda? Of course, I did. I can't deny it. I mean, I used to deny it, but what the hell? Spain didn't blow up the Maine. Wise up, people. The Lusitania was full of troops and guns and that was announced before it sailed. If you think FDR didn't see Pearl Harbor coming I've got some yellow cake to sell you! We don't go to war with the drooling obedient zombies we might want or wish to have at some future time. There was no Gulf of Tonkin incident. Are you stupid? You thought the Iraqis took babies out of incubators in 1991, didn't you? Admit it. Didn't you?

"We say what has to be said to accomplish that which in retrospect will be understood as irreparable. I won't deny it. I cannot deny it. What I can do is reveal that when I claimed to know where the WMDs were I had within the previous 20 minutes consumed over half a bottle of gin. I'm not defending it. I'm laughing in your sad pathetic faces, and yet I cannot even bring myself to grow annoyed at your inability to grasp that fundamental fact.

"Once we'd expended hundreds of billions of dollars killing hundreds of thousands of people and completely devastated the nation of Iraq, with the only tangible result being a dramatic rise in anti-American sentiment and violence around the world, I proposed a different strategy, and do you know what that jack-ass post-turtle two-bit moron from Crawford did? He told you all that he would keep me on after the election. After the election he gave me the old snake-skin boot in the posterior and told you that he'd had to lie to you so that you wouldn't know the truth. And you said 'Oh OK, well that's all right then. Thanks for explaining it to us. Thank you, sir, may we have another? Thank you, sir, may we have another?' You dumbasses.

"You want to learn something about the way the world works? Buy my book. Do you know why Ronald Reagan was a great president? Do you want me to tell you? Because he believed his own bull. That's what it takes. You think we lie to you for the good of the nation. That's not how it works. We lie to ourselves for the good of our careers, and the marketplace of ideas makes that good for the nation. Or not. That's a known unknown.

"Let me just leave you with this, you embarrassing facsimiles of sentient animals. Let me provide you, outside of your comprehension, a little demonstration of your inability to be awakened by a five alarm fire in your jock straps. Are you ready? Here it goes. We're making progress in Afghanistan.

"You've been a great audience. Jesus, what a world."

This has been a complete fabrication which you might as well attribute to Curveball.

David Swanson is the author of "War Is A Lie." See http://warisalie.org
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 12:06 AM
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1. There is no fool like an old fool----nc
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 12:35 AM
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2. wow. He wasn't called Rummy for nothing. k and r
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molly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 03:45 PM
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15. War criminal with Dementia out selling a book. Only in America.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 12:41 AM
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3. My bad- I confused this thread with the one about a man's IQ of 48
Edited on Sat Feb-05-11 12:42 AM by MrMickeysMom
... Jesus, what a war criminal...
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 02:49 AM
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4. A curveball can win a ball game.
But a million-plus people don't die based on the outcome of a "ball game".

Usually.


Thanks, Rummy. We all have a "known known" now, thanks to you.



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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 03:47 AM
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5. War is peace.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 07:36 AM
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6. K&R
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 07:41 AM
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7. K & R
to expose the war criminals
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 07:47 AM
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8. Recommended.
Thanks David.
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 08:02 AM
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9. Machiavellian to the bitter end...
"Machiavelli is the only political thinker whose name has come into common use for designating a kind of politics, which exists and will continue to exist independently of his influence, a politics guided exclusively by considerations of expediency, which uses all means, fair or foul, iron or poison, for achieving its ends - its end being the aggrandizement of one's country or fatherland - but also using the fatherland in the service of the self-aggrandizement of the politician or statesman or one's party."

As always, the end justifies the means, right Rummy? :banghead:
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 09:48 AM
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10. K&R !
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 10:20 AM
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11. "...but the invasion of Iraq paid off." For whom, if I may ask?..
Certainly not the Iraqi PEOPLE, millions of whom were maimed and killed for Rumdum's little sadistic game.

I continue to maintain that Rumsfeld has some clinically significant mental problems.

Oh, and the responses in this thread so far are really creative and humorous. But then, you all have great material to work with. :evilgrin:

Recommend.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 10:32 AM
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12. Recommend!
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 02:03 PM
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14. No. It wouldn't be cool.
Being incarcerated for his crimes at Leavenworth would suffice.
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 10:00 PM
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16. Filthy waste of skin.
I wish there was a hell because these mass murderers would pay for their crimes.
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