New GOP Bill Would Allow Hospitals To Let Women Die Instead Of Having An Abortion

[XanaDUer]

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/02/new-gop-law-would-allow-hospitals-to-let-women-die-instead-of-having-an-abortion.php?ref=dcblt


SNIP - The controversy over "forcible rape" may be over, but now there's a new Republican-sponsored abortion bill in the House that pro-choice folks say may be worse: this time around, the new language would allow hospitals to let a pregnant woman die rather than perform the abortion that would save her life.

[Ilsa]

1. The GOP thinks the last suggestion got them into trouble.

What until they hear the backlash from this draconian suggestion.

I'm glad they are out there with this: let everyone behold what heartless bastards they truly are.

[northoftheborder]

3. They need to be whipped, figuratively, of course.

:mad:

[niyad]

7. I would say literally, but those jerks would probably enjoy it too much.

[bobbolink]

2. "Right-To-Life" doesn't apply to women.

[niyad]

14. no, our only "right" is to keep being broodmares, and produce the fodder for the war machine.

[elleng]

4. and overrule the Hippocratic Oath.

pigs

[niyad]

10. nah, pigs are not that ignorant nor intolerant. it's simple--if you are in the medical profession,

and are not willing to perform ALL the services required of that profession because of your oh-so-delicate sensibilities, GET THE HELL OUT OF THE PROFESSION RIGHT NOW.


forget this "conscience provision" or whatever the hell it is called that allows someone's so-called religious views dictate what medical care they will or will not give. they need another profession.

[Barack_America]

19. There's no overruling the Hippocratic Oath.

It's what governs doctors, Republicans do not.

[niyad]

20. apparently the repukes do. where do you think the "conscience provisions" come from?

[Drale]

5. It just seems like they are trying to give ever progressive

group great things to remind people that the GOP tried in the next election.

[niyad]

6. so how many counties only have a catholic hospital? this, by the way, is, or at least used to be,

the catholic church's stand--let the woman die. i remember (vaguely) a movie years ago that had that exact scene. the woman was pregnant, seriously ill, and the doctors wanted to perform an operation that could save her life, but possibly terminate the fetus. her brother, a priest, refused to allow this, saying something along the lines of "if she dies, that is god's will. if the operation kills the fetus, that is murder" (can't remember whether she died or not, and cannot remember the name of the movie)

"I think a majority of Americans would agree with us that saving a woman's life should be every hospital's first priority," Alexa Kolbi-Molina, an attorney with the ACLU's reproductive freedom division said. "We all know a woman who has faced a complication in her pregnancy ... we would hope that when that woman goes to a hospital she would be protected and get the care that she needs."

"I think a majority of Americans would believe that a hospital should not be imposing their religious beliefs when providing care, especially life-saving care," she added.

(sorry, alexa, maybe a majority of americans feel like that, an intelligent and rational response, BUT, we are talking the woman-hating, pro-forced birthers here, and they would rather the woman died)

. . . .

[HockeyMom]

17. They waited until my tube burst

That way they don't have to "kill" the baby (embryo). Then they can heroically try to save the woman from massive internal bleeding.

[musette_sf]

29. IIRC the movie was "The Cardinal"

and the priest let his sister die.

[WCGreen]

8. People, this is Taliban Territory....

To placate their fundamentalist supporters, they are willing to let some one die.

In this day and age, in this SECULAR country, that is just, to use a technical term, BAT SHIT CRAZY!!!!

[CaliforniaPeggy]

23. You are so damn right!

:grr:

[Kennah]

9. They need the Aryan babies

[FiveGoodMen]

11. I don't even get how they can sell this to their own deluded followers

The human capacity for evil is apparently limitless.

Fuck ALL conservatives. IN BOTH PARTIES!

[niyad]

13. because their followers are truly ignorant, hateful, and, they really and truly hate women

(and this includes the women who support this evil. they are so brainwashed that they go against their own best interests)

[FiveGoodMen]

15. Agreed. It's just hard to imagine.

I certainly grew up believing that while a few sociopaths might exist, normal human beings always had some amount of empathy and would not cross certain lines.

In fact, it looks like millions upon millions of "people" are just walking devils.

And many at THIS SITE insist that we should compromise with them.

[niyad]

16. I don't compromise with evil, and people seeking my death or destruction

[niyad]

12. well, I just called to let him know what I think of him.

[KoKo]

18. Don't you think WOMEN should SACRIFICE to the New Regime?

After all...Our New President is a Pragmatist. And there are many who support Obama who really are AGAINST ABORTION. Shouldn't Obama listen to them? After all they have been working for THEIR CAUSE much LONGER THAN those who SUPPORT GAY RIGHTS FOR ALL AND you could go back to GIVING FEMALES THE RIGHT TO VOTE that has caused this anger against FEMALES.

Just Saying.

[niyad]

21. actually, there was some repuke jerk recently who actually advocated overturning the 19th amendment

[KoKo]

24. So you think that President Obama would go against them on this?

I don't. I think he believes the RW MEME that Women who get Pregnant are subject to "THE LAW." He really is in SUPPORT of Marriage and Fetus Rights..

I don't get angry with him about that...but I think that we Misread him in the CAMPAIGN about WHERE HE STOOD. WE THOUGHT...he supported WOMEN'S RIGHTS...but, instead, his view was NUANCED.

Not to say what he thought was WRONG...it was just that he supports the Christian Groups over what THE LEFT thought he supported. Just saying.......:-(

[niyad]

25. where do you get the idea I think obama would stand against the xian reichwing?

seriously, there is nothing he does that surprises me, just continues to disappoint me.

[KoKo]

28. It is "amazing" ...how far he goes..

in some territory...that it's hard to even fathom. :-( I worry each day..about what is next that he will support on the Right...that takes away another law or understanding covenant that was made with Democrats.. or those who "THOUGHT, Mistakenly" that they were DEMOCRATS.

It's an amazing thing watching him. We need to be fair about him and realize the MSM is probably dissing him and distoring message....YET we now have access to some Dem/Socialist/Middle Steam Blogs and ALL OF THEM are DECRYING this new OBAMA TILT TO RIGHT on WOMEN'S RIGHTS. Many Women Activists thought we'd won some Major battles for WOMEN'S RIGHTS in the PAST DECADES.

APPARENTLY NOT! WHERE DO WE WOMEN GO FROM HERE? If our own DEM PARTY is CAVING ON US....WHERE DO WE GO? ...Without FUNDING or SUPPORT..we are dead and go back to early 20 Century America. A Google search will show where we Females were back then.....and I wonder how many female Dem Supporters would EVER WANT OR THINK ABOUT ....GOING BACK ...THERE!!! :scared:

[niyad]

34. I have no intention of ever going back to those times. sadly "the handmaid's tale" is far closer

than even I thought possible a couple of decades ago.

[Guilded Lilly]

22. UTTERLY WRETCHED man

ANY law maker who supports this kind of hatred and disrespect for women needs to be bombarded, and I mean seriously bombarded with daily petitions/emails/letters/phonecalls from every source imaginable declaring their disgust.

[niyad]

26. believe me, already doing my part.

[KoKo]

27. But, you have to understand that Obama thinks he is doing the "correct thing" in Re-Aligning America

At heart, I don't believe that Obama ever supported Abortion. He sees his two children as the "joy of his life" and I don't believe that (in her heart) that Michelle would support Abortion as it is practiced today.

I think they both believe that "You Get In Trouble"..."work it out" and then ask the American System to help you... and IF we find you DO NOT HAVE A JUST CASE to BRING TO LEGAL SYSTEM...then you need to know you are "doing or did something wrong" in getting Pregnant or getting a woman pregnant. I think the Obama Administrations believes in RESPONSIBILITY OF TEENS to do the MORAL THING ....ON THEIR OWN...while adhering to LAWS.

THEY ARE 'VERY' PRAGMATIC.

[Guilded Lilly]

36. At heart, I do not think that what you think about Obama is true

peace,
Lilly

[cynatnite]

30. If they can't force us to be pregnant, they'd rather kill us. n/t

[neverforget]

31. Love the child hate the woman.

Pro-life my ass.

[Betty]

32. this proves that it's not about saving the baby's life

since if the mother dies, the baby does too. This has always been about controlling women and treating them as nothing more than incubators

[jemelanson]

33. The Pro-Life movement in the USA is not about life it is about control.

The Pro-life movement is about controlling the sexuality of Women. It is about forced childbirth. Now once that child is born then they do not care about that child. That is why they are against programs which provide that child with medical care, nutrition, clean water, clean air, safe toys, and education. They do not care if the mother dies is the process of having that child. It is okay for that woman to die and the unborn child to die also. It is okay if that woman has other children at home to deny them a mother, because they do not count once they are born. Once a woman or child (in the case of rape or incest) becomes pregnant then they have no value except as the bearer of this unborn child. They lose their value as a person until that unborn child is born, then the they both have no value.

This is the same bunch that wants to define birth control drugs as abortion also. They have reverted to their Puritan Roots and as such believe that sex should is wrong unless you intend to create a child. If you have sex for any other reason it is a sin. Sex except between a married man and woman is a sin. Women who are abused by their husbands are to blame for that abuse because if they were properly submissive to their husband then their husband would not have any reason to abuse them. If a woman is raped by a date or a stranger it is her fault because of the way she dressed, or she was dancing or she asked for it by her actions.

These people would like to take away any right that allows any woman to operate as a Person. That include the right to vote, to own property, to get an education, to get a job and receive payment for that job. If this sounds like the radical side to the Muslim Religion, it comes from the same Anti-Woman roots that are found in Judaism and Christianity. All three of these religions come from the same roots and have born the same hatred for Women.


Is this what you want for your Daughters and Granddaughters?

Are Men still so afraid of Women that they must reduce her back to property and slave?

[niyad]

35. the answer to your question is YES

[Guilded Lilly]

37. Certain men afraid of women? From their cowardly souls, yes.

[Maru Kitteh]

38. "We don't hate women. We think they are a holy vessel for God to breathe life!"

This fits in perfectly with this thread earlier . . . http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=348042&mesg_id=348042


I mean, who cares if you lose a piece of Tupperware on the operating table, right? As long as she does her job first.

[XanaDUer]

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[niyad]

40. kick for weekend crowd. this is important

[niyad]

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[Honeycombe8]

42. This is scary stuff. nt

[niyad]

43. . . . .