'Iraq war ordered 15 days after 9/11'

[The Straight Story]

'Iraq war ordered 15 days after 9/11'

Former US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld says in his memoirs that ex-President George W. Bush ordered the Iraq war just two weeks after September 11.


In his autobiography scheduled to be released on February 8, Rumsfeld writes that 15 days after 9/11, when Pentagon's focus was on Afghan war, Bush called him to his office and ordered a review plans for Iraq war.

“Two weeks after the worst terror attacks in our nation's history, those of us in the Department of Defense were full occupied,” but Bush called for a “creative” option for invading Iraq, The Huffington Post reported on Thursday.

However, Rumsfeld says Iraq war has been worth the costs and offers no apology for the way he handled the conflict.

He says if former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's regime was not ousted, the Middle East would be “far more perilous than it is today.”

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/163510.html

[indepat]

1. Which raises the question "How much less perilous would the world be today had the felonious five

not coronated junior on that fateful day in December 2000?" :shrug:

[Botany]

3. "How much less perilous would the world be today had the felonious five ....

not coroneted junior on that fateful day in December 2000?"

no 9/11
no war in Iraq
no war in Afghanistan
no spying
no torture
no failed response to Katrina ... .the levies would have been rebuilt better; money not to Iraq .... the Louisiana National Guard would
have been there w/ their amphibious vehicles
no gulf oil disaster
no native run salmon kill in the west
no Ohio 2004
no sitting on their asses when all the economic warning signs were blinking red
and .....

[indepat]

24. ...and junior's beat goes on and on without end!

;)

[ladjf]

4. You have gone right to the heart of the the most dangerous

corruption in our political system, the Supreme Court. If they are crooks, then there isn't much hope to solve basic political problems fairly.

[indepat]

25. And none will ever be removed for cause no matter how egregious and numerous the seemingly

high crimes and misdemeanors. :shrug:

[Major Hogwash]

2. Former Secretary of the Treasury Snow wrote a book in 2003 and said the plans were from Day One.

To find a way to go back to Iraq.

To finish the job his daddy started.

[ladjf]

5. How is that millions of Americans know these facts and yet no one

in the Bush Administration has been held accountable in the slightest way? They lied to get us into a conflict that cost thousands of American lives, millions of Iraqis and trillions of dollars.

Our system is almost totally corrupt. Somehow, something has got to be done to rectify this situation.

[FiveGoodMen]

20. How is it that this site continues to support the man who continues and escalates

these wars that we never should have started?

[ladjf]

22. Not all of the DU'ers support that man. nt

[FiveGoodMen]

28. Certainly not all.

But I'm shocked that so many do and that the site's founder tells Cenk, "I think Obama's doing a good job."

Can't fathom that at all.

[ladjf]

29. Yes, it make you wonder what they are thinking. nt

[Major Hogwash]

30. Why did so many millions of Americans vote to re-elect Bush in 2004?

And when it came out 5 months later in Rolling Stone magazine that he had stolen the votes in Ohio -- and he would've lost that state if he hadn't stolen those votes, and would have lost the election -- then why didn't 100s of 1000s of people storm the White House?

Because they ALL would have been put in prison, that's why!!!

You can't fight a dictator like Bush just by protesting!
That's just silly!

That's why we worked so hard to get control back of Congress in 2006.
And then take back the White House in 2008.

As far as I'm concerned, these guys from Bush's administration have all written books that contain evidence that would convict them ALL in a court of law for engaging in torture.
Hell, Bush admitted as much in his book.

[alsame]

It was ordered in 1998...

Given the magnitude of the threat, the current policy, which depends for its success upon the steadfastness of our coalition partners and upon the cooperation of Saddam Hussein, is dangerously inadequate. The only acceptable strategy is one that eliminates the possibility that Iraq will be able to use or threaten to use weapons of mass destruction. In the near term, this means a willingness to undertake military action as diplomacy is clearly failing. In the long term, it means removing Saddam Hussein and his regime from power. That now needs to become the aim of American foreign policy.

We urge you to articulate this aim, and to turn your Administration's attention to implementing a strategy for removing Saddam's regime from power. This will require a full complement of diplomatic, political and military efforts. Although we are fully aware of the dangers and difficulties in implementing this policy, we believe the dangers of failing to do so are far greater. We believe the U.S. has the authority under existing UN resolutions to take the necessary steps, including military steps, to protect our vital interests in the Gulf. In any case, American policy cannot continue to be crippled by a misguided insistence on unanimity in the UN Security Council.

We urge you to act decisively. If you act now to end the threat of weapons of mass destruction against the U.S. or its allies, you will be acting in the most fundamental national security interests of the country. If we accept a course of weakness and drift, we put our interests and our future at risk.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

[sabrina 1]

6. Simply confirmation for what others have said,

like Gen. Clark eg. I would s.ay that that war was planned for before 9/11. The PNAC crowd said so and said that all they needed was an 'event of catastrophic proportions to get the people to go along with it.

[frylock]

7. AG holder wastes our time kicking down doors at medical marijuana co-ops..

all while bushco takes another victory lap.

[FLPanhandle]

8. This is what happens when you have an administration based on emotions.

I'm glad we have Obama.

[grahamhgreen]

9. Failure to prosecute for known crimes makes one complicit in said crimes.

[sufrommich]

10. This should come as a surprise to absolutely no one. nt

[Gregorian]

11. All who signed the PNAC ought to be tried as terrorists.

[Badfish]

12. Not according to Richard Clarke..

Clarke says that as early as the day after the attacks, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was pushing for retaliatory strikes on Iraq, even though al Qaeda was based in Afghanistan......"Rumsfeld was saying that we needed to bomb Iraq," Clarke said to Stahl. "And we all said ... no, no. Al-Qaeda is in Afghanistan. We need to bomb Afghanistan. And Rumsfeld said there aren't any good targets in Afghanistan. And there are lots of good targets in Iraq. I said, 'Well, there are lots of good targets in lots of places, but Iraq had nothing to do with it.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/19/60minutes/main607356.shtml

[leveymg]

21. Steve Cambone's notes on 9/11 2:40 pm meeting with Rummy: "Go massive, Things related and not

"Go massive. Sweep it all up. Things related and not…" . . . "Hit S.H. (Saddam Hussein) at the same time. Not only UBL (Usama bin Laden)"







(2 Entered in party July, 2 of 3 pulled aside and interrogated? (may mistakenly refer here to detention and questioning of Atta and al-Ghambdi by INS at Miami Airport in January, who were admitted without lawful visas).

[kenny blankenship]

13. Mass murder first, ask questions later?

Tell me again why these men aren't on trial for warcrimes and murder?

[WCGreen]

14. No shit.... 100 percent agree...

That is why I won't even vote for republicans running unopposed at the local level.

They are all complicit, they are all responsible, they are all faux Christians, they are all about nothing else but what's in it for meism.

[seafan]

15. All the war criminals have their own versions of the truth.

Rumsfeld: 'Iraq war ordered 15 days after 9/11'



Former US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld (Via PressTV)


Feb 4, 2011
PressTV

In his autobiography scheduled to be released on February 8, Rumsfeld writes that 15 days after 9/11, when Pentagon's focus was on Afghan war, Bush called him to his office and ordered a review plans for Iraq war.

“Two weeks after the worst terror attacks in our nation's history, those of us in the Department of Defense were full occupied,” but Bush called for a “creative” option for invading Iraq, The Huffington Post reported on Thursday.

However, Rumsfeld says Iraq war has been worth the costs and offers no apology for the way he handled the conflict.

He says if former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's regime was not ousted, the Middle East would be “far more perilous than it is today.”

.....

In 2006, Rumsfeld was sacked after the US war in Iraq came to a deadlock after three and a half years.

Since the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003, at least 4,440 US soldiers have been killed and more than 31,830 others injured.

The devastating war has also left more than 1,300,000 Iraqi civilians dead and some 4.7 million Iraqis displaced, according to reports.

Plans For Iraq Attack Began On 9/11

Exclusive: Rumsfeld Sought Plan For Iraq Strike Hours After 9/11 Attack

By Joel Roberts
September 4, 2002

(CBS) CBS News has learned that barely five hours after American Airlines Flight 77 plowed into the Pentagon, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld was telling his aides to come up with plans for striking Iraq — even though there was no evidence linking Saddam Hussein to the attacks.

That's according to notes taken by aides who were with Rumsfeld in the National Military Command Center on Sept. 11 – notes that show exactly where the road toward war with Iraq began, reports CBS News National Security Correspondent David Martin.

At 9:53 a.m., just 15 minutes after the hijacked plane had hit the Pentagon, and while Rumsfeld was still outside helping with the injured, the National Security Agency, which monitors communications worldwide, intercepted a phone call from one of Osama bin Laden's operatives in Afghanistan to a phone number in the former Soviet Republic of Georgia.

The caller said he had "heard good news" and that another target was still to come; an indication he knew another airliner, the one that eventually crashed in Pennsylvania, was at that very moment zeroing in on Washington.

It was 12:05 p.m. when the director of Central Intelligence told Rumsfeld about the intercepted conversation.

Rumsfeld felt it was "vague," that it "might not mean something," and that there was "no good basis for hanging hat." In other words, the evidence was not clear-cut enough to justify military action against bin Laden.

But later that afternoon, the CIA reported the passenger manifests for the hijacked airliners showed three of the hijackers were suspected al Qaeda operatives.

"One guy is associate of Cole bomber," the notes say, a reference to the October 2000 suicide boat attack on the USS Cole in Yemen, which had also been the work of bin Laden.

With the intelligence all pointing toward bin Laden, Rumsfeld ordered the military to begin working on strike plans. And at 2:40 p.m., the notes quote Rumsfeld as saying he wanted "best info fast. Judge whether good enough hit S.H." – meaning Saddam Hussein – "at same time. Not only UBL" – the initials used to identify Osama bin Laden.

Now, nearly one year later, there is still very little evidence Iraq was involved in the Sept. 11 attacks. But if these notes are accurate, that didn't matter to Rumsfeld.

"Go massive," the notes quote him as saying. "Sweep it all up. Things related and not."

With many of these war criminal spinning furiously their own "versions" of history, we must never lose the truth of this time.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

16. That long? n/t

[RegieRocker]

17. Shit like that happens when you make decisions based on

clues.

[RT Atlanta]

18. Pleased to meetcha! How can I be of assistance?

[FiveGoodMen]

19. ...and planned long before it

[malaise]

23. I don't buy it

They planned to invade Iraq before the election. That's why conspiracy theories re 9/11 will never die. They always intended to steal Iraq's oil. This neo-con BS was pre-planned.

[Matariki]

26. Anyone who can refer to HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of deaths -

and countless lives shattered - as "worth the cost" has very little humanity in them.

[hulka38]

27. Thanks. eom