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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 06:43 PM
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Supporting abortion rights only in certain cases is like opposing the death penalty except
Edited on Sat Jan-29-11 07:00 PM by RB TexLa
for specific individuals.

Both are moral positions. Of course there are time frames involved with abortion and the point in the pregnancy. The same with the death penalty and severity of crimes it is used in.

I generally don't mind hypocrisy that much, but when you take your position based on a moral stance you really can't say, "except for."


on edit
I'm talking about people opposing each on a moral basis, such as one saying we have a moral right to protect the unborn except in the case of rape. And one who says the government has no right to take ones life for a crime, except if they kill 20 kids.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 06:46 PM
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1. I beg to differ
I oppose the death penalty except when the crime involves children. Those people are as bad as Hitler and would probably end up being killed in prison anyway.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 06:56 PM
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4. Then you don't oppose the death penalty...nt
Sid
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 06:57 PM
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5. That's different, you are not opposing the DP based on a moral standpoint
Edited on Sat Jan-29-11 07:01 PM by RB TexLa
as in it's immoral for the government to put someone to death for a crime. You have a disagreement on the application of the DP.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 06:48 PM
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2. This is precisely why I am opposed to
a. The death penalty. Period.

b. Restrictions on abortion. Period.




TG, TT
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 06:54 PM
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3. If you look at it from a Scientific standpoint - the real Ethics are in play
Edited on Sat Jan-29-11 06:55 PM by Taverner
A zygote, during the 1st trimester, has less of a nervous system than a tadpole.

A fully mature homo sapiens, has, well the nervous system we all have.

So ethically, abortion should be a no brainer

And the DP should be a no brainer.

And besides, you being you, me being me, if you or I did a heinous crime - wouldn't we want to reflect on what we did? In an ethical and moral sense? Give a man life in prison and he's 30 - trust me, there will be some some moments of self realization - the kind that make one crumple up in sorrow and guilt.

And if they don't? Fuck em'. They are STILL not going anywhere for at least 40 years. And the fucker should be on suicide watch constantly.

We should send them off the way we send ourselves off when we commit suicide in a pain-avoident method.

Opiate - Barbituate - Toxin - wait
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 07:57 PM
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6. I oppose the DP because it is not constitionally administered, not because of a moral
problem with it. The advantage of my position is no one can point out some heinous murderer and ask why he doesn't deserve to die. I just shrug and say he does deserve to.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 08:16 PM
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7. Abortion and execution both end a live entity. I support pro choice but a live egg & live sperm
merge their DNA to become a single cell with the genetic blueprint for a unique individual.

Every human being was not created at the point of conception, we're just the latest instance of a chain of life that stretches back to the beginning of life.

I oppose capital punishment not because I think it's morally wrong, but because I find abhorrent the idea of murdering an innocent person.

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