FAIL.

[WilliamPitt]

Sorry.

It's true.

Good night, all. We're in deep shit.

[Poboy]

1. Recommend

[MadBadger]

2. Was this necessary with your other thread too?

C'mon, pick one or the other.

[bigwillq]

5. Is there now a limit

on how many threads a poster can start?
:shrug:

[WilliamPitt]

7. Thank you. It's always refreshing to have a Board Nanny present.

I am properly chastened.

[MadBadger]

9. At least your other thread had some real thoughts

[PBass]

94. Agree, this thread is kind of dumb,

but maybe William Pitt is a Big Shot around here, and it's crucial to know whether he gives something the Thumbs Down, in as few words as possible.

Now that I've learned what I'm supposed to think too, I guess I can also go to bed.

Thanks for expending all that effort.

[babylonsister]

3. Why? nt

[patrice]

79. Because there are some amongst those who call themselves "the Left" who OWN the truth just as absolu

tely as any Rightist does.

[Renew Deal]

4. lol

Ummmm, no.

[soleft]

6. Here we go again

[Still a Democrat]

8. 85%+ posotive - get a grip n/t

[Fire1]

45. Ditto. n/t

[hfojvt]

97. What does that prove?

At one point, Bush had 90% approval rating.

Apprently the American tolerance for sell-outs and failure is pretty high - even among liberal Democrats. I guess I should be happy if the moderate Republican gets re-elected. It will only convince more 'democrats' to move to the right, to the right, to the right. Double cross. Everybody clap your hands :applause: :applause:

[Still a Democrat]

99. 85% of the speech was positive IMO, not poll approval n/t

[jillan]

10. this thread is a fail.

[fishwax]

.

:crazy:

[MichiganVote]

11. Bunch of speechifying without any specifics. Useless.

[Kahuna]

21. Like every other SOTU speech before this. nt

[MichiganVote]

23. Like every speech every politician gives.

[babylonsister]

29. What specifics were you expecting from a SOTU? Ain't gonna happen. nt

[MichiganVote]

32. Ok. I get it. You're right. I'm wrong. End of commentary.

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[L0oniX]

34. I was waiting to hear about the new tea tax.

[Kahuna]

41. He's a politician, last time I checked.

:eyes:

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[Lex]

13. Can't argue with that reasoning.

:shrug:

[flvegan]

14. Memo didn't get to you?

Jesus, Will. Back into lockstep.

[Dennis Donovan]

15. Wow... as someone who has watched SOTU's since the early 70's...

...you're just plain wrong.:thumbsdown:

This, among SOTU's in the past, didn't suck.

[TheKentuckian]

18. The content was a worthless embrace of a failed system

[Dennis Donovan]

25. NO, it was a reaffirmation of ideals that made us (once) great...

...and a positive force on the Earth. I guess I still cling to the hope that the US can be such a force.

[pscot]

42. It's a popular delusion

but we don't seem to swing that way any more.

[onehandle]

16. But he railed against tax cuts for the rich...

...again.

[cherokeeprogressive]

92. You mean as in "lower the corporate tax rate"? That kind of railing? n/t

[Godhumor]

100. And closing loopholes for a net loss of corporate income of...0

Removing a ton of the Tax Shield crap that corps get away with would make me very, very happy.

[lumberjack_jeff]

17. Terrible.

I picked a bad day to stop sniffing glue.

[cui bono]

30. I just heard that recently. Where is that from? n/t

[nickyt]

40. Lloyd Bridges' character in "Airplane!" n/t

[deutsey]

19. I was unimpressed.

[Kahuna]

20. I'll bet you the the post speech respondents don't think it was a FAIL..

So, stop thinking you speak for anyone but yourself.

[Pisces]

22. No, just you. Grab a paddle for your thoughts.

[sammytko]

24. Go to bed.

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[dixiegrrrrl]

27. He calls for allowing military recruiters back on campuses.

After all the struggle it took to get them out, we are back to square one.
That broke my heart.

[cui bono]

35. He desperately wants some GOP fanboys. n/t

[proud2BlibKansan]

Me too

[patrice]

53. DIDN'T like that

[namahage]

60. Which campuses successfully banned military recruiters?

List them, if you can.

Oh, and Harvard under then-dean Kagan wasn't one of them: http://mediamatters.org/print/blog/201101030036

In fact, it was the opposite--the Solomon Amendment essentially FORCED campuses to allow recruiting, or else lose their funding.

Then, of course, there were those that weren't against the military per se, but WERE against DADT. Once DADT is fully repealed, the President wants these institutions to accept potential LGBT recruits.

[Hippo_Tron]

88. I thought the reason campuses banned them was because of discrimination against gay people

Now that gay people are allowed to serve openly, isn't it a moot point?

[msanthrope]

28. I think you incorrect, sir.

I know you are wrong.

Why?

Because I just watched the first 20 seconds of the Repuke response, and they don't have a fucking thing to hold on to.

[Canuckistanian]

31. Biggest chain of RW talking points I've heard in a long time

Very disappointing.

[ceile]

49. Agreed. n/t

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[Raine]

38. On point. nt

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[parasim]

43. What did you expect from the NOSO?

(Night Of Standing Ovations)

Does anybody really take the SOTU address as anything serious? It's just Washington full tilt. Politicians being politicians.

[upi402]

44. Looks like a Gameshow Host convention to me

Obama should not have disappointed anyone who was paying attention during the nomination lie fest.

[WiffenPoof]

46. Looks Like I Didn't Miss Anything n/t

[Kahuna]

47. Har! Flash poll results provided by our own

Drunken Irishman. REad em and weep! :rofl:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x599719

[ceile]

48. Thought I was watching Perry in 2012

At least he didn't bring up the "unborn" in his part about how parents are responsible. Education, yes. Military, yes.
Sorry, y'all. But very disappointed and, well....angry!

[patrice]

50. That's rather absolutist of you.+ Doesn't ANYTHING depend upon what WE Do about our own problems?

[FarLeftFist]

51. This won't break zero rec's

[WorseBeforeBetter]

56. But it can be kicked to the top. (n/t)

[cherokeeprogressive]

93. It can? Are you sure about that? n/t

[madamesilverspurs]

52. Somebody please call Will Pitt

and warn him that Mitch McConnell has gotten his password and is posting in Will's name!


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[proud2BlibKansan]

54. He gives good speech

Other than that . . . .

[patrice]

57. I thought it was a little dull. There were several things I liked: commitment to Infrastructure &

Clean energy technologies; calling on Republicans to make health care reform better by identifying cost efficiencies; stand by Social Security; build out the internet; tax code simplification; end top 2% tax breaks; close loopholes; establish a standard for voluntary lobbyist-authored legislation identification; re-affirmation of the Dream Act; honoring repeal of DADT . . .

[proud2BlibKansan]

59. I didn't hear him reaffirming the Dream Act

I heard him complaining about kids worried about being deported.

[patrice]

63. He didn't use it's title, but there were references to how certain people could be contributing

to our society instead of being a problem. There were 3-4 sentences alluding to the substance of the Dream Act, without referring to it by name.

[Electric Monk]

55. PILE ON

Welcome to the new DU.

[Still a Democrat]

58. Some OP's beg for it n/t

[Safetykitten]

61. 2012 here we come.

[Rex]

62. The guy is pro big business all the way and more than needed.

I knew he was a corporate suit, he has so far shown me he is willing to bendover backward for big business no matter what the cost.

You expected better?

[patrice]

65. There were direct references to taxes that hurt small businesses and trade policies that do not

protect Americans, not to mention enhancing small business health care dollars.

[Rex]

72. He is pro big biz, don't care if you won't acknowledge that fact

doesn't even matter.

[patrice]

84. Again, you prove my point. "There is one truth and only one truth and it is MINE." wow.

Do you even really understand what the word Liberal means?

[patrice]

67. Perhaps your perceptions are shaped by your "corporate suit" expectations. Not that I don't hear

that too, but more that I hear a variety of priorities determined by the relationships between things. You hear apparently one thing, a CEO, which may be the result of how you have defined e - v - e - r - y - t - h - i - n - g to begin with.

[Rex]

69. No just based on his former dealings/policies at a senator.

Nice try.

[patrice]

73. You prove my point. You already "know", so you hear/see what you "know". nt

[Rex]

76. Wrong, you believe opposite of what I say and will 'know'

how wrong I am with another false comment. I was disappointed, deal with it.

[patrice]

81. Wrong, I believe what you say and I believe the opposite of what you say, because I know

that reality is much more complicated than either you or I.

[patrice]

82. You, on the other hand, apparently, believe that you can calculate ALL probabilities of all factors

and arrive at THE truth which you own along with those who agree with you and NO ONE ELSE.

[patrice]

86. No, I believe you are right in some ways and wrong in others. You, on the other hand, believe you

are 100% right in all ways, at any and all times under all future conditions.

You are the so called "Left's" version of what is wrong with the Right.

[CakeGrrl]

64. What do the extremely displeased want from this speech?

If he'd played music to Progressive ears, I'm sure he would have been derided as some as giving "just another pretty speech - all talk, no action".

[NuclearDem]

66. Exactly...

No matter what Obama does or says, there's going to a fair number of DUers who'll find SOMETHING to complain about.

He could be out rescuing a kitten out of a tree and someone here will jump in and deride him for not spending that time prosecuting the Bush administration.

[Bluebear]

68. Poor Obama, always derided. He could rescue a kitten!

:cry:

[NuclearDem]

74. Oh, knock it off

[Bluebear]

78. Then knock off your ridiculous "Obama could _____ & people would bitch" schtick.

[upi402]

75. he'd probably just boot the cat in the brains too

nothing will get done unless it benefits a huge corporation. there was nothing

[Rex]

77. Please don't make fun of our President.

It offends the thin-skinned here; just support him and never say anything negative again. Thanks.

Just kidding.

[Bluebear]

80. Sorry. THUD!! :

[Rex]

85. Wow. Now that is a fine piece of man meat!

I changed my mind on everything I said about him up to this point in time...:crazy:

[truth2power]

70. I honestly believe you're correct, Will.... n/t

[Goblinmonger]

71. Word.

I knew I wouldn't hear a progressive up there but I was hoping for a Democrat.

[GCP]

83. Yes, it's a pity he doesn't pass the purity test

Considering the vast majority of middle America would prefer John McCain were in charge.

[lutefisk]

87. "The most valuable of all talents is that of never using two words when one will do."

Thomas Jefferson on why FAIL is often as effective as EPIC FAIL.



:patriot: :hi:

[Odin2005]

89. Corporate TOOL.

[proud2BlibKansan]

90. kick

[woo me with science]

91. Depressing as hell, isn't it? nt

[delightfulstar]

95. Kick....

At least I know there are two safe havens, each less than three hours away - Mexico in one direction (where I could live as young, retired ex-pat), or California (solidly blue, with stabilizing housing prices). Both are looking like great options right now LOL.

[Foo Fighter]

106. You're lucky you have places that close to you.

I'm considering Costa Rica myself. I wouldn't mind eventually retiring there but from the way things look, that whole "retirement" thingy might become a relic of the past. At least for the poor and working class anyway.

[jonnyblitz]

96. !!!

:kick:

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[boston bean]

102. that's sort of nasty and ballsy to ask that, don't you think? nt

[seabeyond]

101. no, it wasnt a fail. and no.... it is not true. nt

[cali]

103. Dire pronouncement about the deep shit we're in #5,679,392

how brilliant.

[mmonk]

104. Not a game changing speech for sure.

Just a mainstream media pundit satisfier.

[MineralMan]

105. Can't argue with that - because there's nothing in it.

Content-free post. No argument.