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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 05:34 PM
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Vermont to Strike a Blow to Corporate Personhood
Edited on Sat Jan-22-11 06:16 PM by RegieRocker
I hope to see the day and days where this is accomplished across the nation.

"an amendment to the United States Constitution ... which provides that corporations are not persons under the laws of the United States."

http://www.alternet.org/rights/149620/vermont_is_gearing_up_to_strike_a_major_blow_to_corporate_personhood
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Duwamish Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 05:36 PM
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1. Excellent!
Is Bernie Sanders behind this?
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 05:38 PM
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2. Virginia Lyons
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 05:46 PM
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3. Who is she? How old is she? Would she like to be President someday?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 04:08 PM
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32. I think Ginny Lyons is close to 70
She's a state senator.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 05:50 PM
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4. I want someone to sponsor this in North Carolina. It's HIGH TIME the states took some action.
I'm soooo sick of the corporations running this country. And, of course, they run the states, also.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:01 AM
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20. Me too loudsue.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 05:56 PM
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5. link please????
purty please?
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 05:58 PM
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6. +1
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 06:03 PM
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7. LINK HERE:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 06:04 PM
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8. Hope Springs Eternal
:kick:

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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 06:06 PM
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9. Please include a link when posting -- thanks to donnachaidh for stepping up.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 06:11 PM
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10. VT is lookin like a more promising place to move to each and every day.
Too bad there's no way to earn a living there and it's expensive as hell.
Lovely place though.
Not enough walmarts for people to work at.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 06:33 PM
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11. right. there's no way to earn a living here.
unemployment is 5.7% in Vermont. Not perfect, but not as bad as most places. And it's more expensive to live here than some areas, and less expensive than others.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 06:50 PM
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13. White collar jobs tho.
Right?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 06:51 PM
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14. huh?
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 11:16 PM
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16. Shhhhhhh
I may not live there anymore but it's home. I'm perfectly happy for people to think it's too cold/too expensive/too poor/too much unemployment/not the right kind of employment or whatever. The last thing Vermont needs is more people. :P
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 09:53 AM
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17. You do realize that it appears as though it's trying hard to attract all the progressives in the US.
Edited on Sun Jan-23-11 09:54 AM by Shagbark Hickory
Think about it. It's like a Canada that we can actually move to.

I'm not all that tied down to where I live. I'm sort of country shopping to tell you the truth. I don't think you can beat the opportunity that exists in the US though and being able to have some of the social benefits of more civilized countries, without emigrating, then that huge for me. I'm tired of being in a really conservative place where the elected officials would, frankly, prefer if I was dead.

What if 50,000 people said, "I had enough of my redneck sunbelt state, I'm moving to vermont for the healthcare or gay marriage and low unemployment."

How is VT going to cope with all the refugees?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:33 AM
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23. I don't see that happening. Most people just don't want to live
in a tiny, cold, mostly agrarian state.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:39 AM
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26. Why not?
People live in Minnesota.
That place has a lot of industry. And agriculture.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:30 AM
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22. You know. The jobs that typically reuquire a bachelors degree at minimum.
If universal healthcare passed in VT, and 50,000 people like myself finally said, "you know what, I'm tired of my conservative state. We're not progressing here" and picked up and moved to VT. Or maybe the 99ers said I'm tired of waiting for a job to come back that probably never will.
Are there enough positions at the teddy bear factory or ben and jerry's plant or the ski resorts to employ us all?
I don't have a college degree. I make a living selling things to churches, something we have a hell of a lot of down here.

In the south we have major industries that Vermont doesn't appear to have.

Will the government of VT be providing jobs for those that are seeking them?

Could it be that the reason the unemployment rate is so relatively low there, is because people that couldn't find a job left a long time ago?

What's going to happen to tourism in VT if a bunch of developers move in and start bulldozing your forests and leveling your hills to build subdivisions to house all the refugees?

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:37 AM
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25. developers can't move in and start bulldozing. we have the strictest
and oldest evironmental and development laws in the country, Act 250. Hey, we don't even allow billboards in this state, do you really think we'll let people just come in and wreak havoc on beloved hills and valleys? Not a chance.

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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:48 AM
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27. Sounding better and better every minute!
Edited on Sun Jan-23-11 10:48 AM by Shagbark Hickory
We've had big problems due to lack of regulation for land development.
Billboards don't bother me so much but what's going to happen when 50,000 (or more) people want to move to Vermont?
I know you don't think that's going to happen but they didn't plan for a million people to move to my city after the 1996 olympics.
Gotta plan. Policy has consequences. Some good. Some not so good.
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Gaedel Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:52 AM
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28. Silly you....
"What's going to happen to tourism in VT if a bunch of developers move in and start bulldozing your forests and leveling your hills to build subdivisions to house all the refugees?"


True progressives don't want to live in subdivisions. They all want to live in trendy urban lofts.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 06:38 PM
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12. K&R
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 07:10 PM
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15. Let's hope other states follow VT's lead.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 09:54 AM
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18. Vermont seems to be the model on how to fight back.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 04:07 PM
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31. we've got some really great legislators in both the Senate and the House
lots of them.
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stillwaiting Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 09:56 AM
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19. Vonderful!! :) nt
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:03 AM
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21. recommend
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:35 AM
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24. No court has ever said they are "persons" or "gots da personshood"
legal entities such as DU have protections under the constitution.
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cantbeserious Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:04 PM
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29. This Cannot Come Soon Enough!
eom
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 04:03 PM
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30. Huge K & R! nt
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 01:55 AM
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33. Too late to recommend.
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