Wall Street v. Elizabeth Warren

[PETRUS]

Karl Rove’s Crossroads GPS group has launched the first attack ad against Elizabeth Warren, presumably because she is now running hard for the Senate in Massachusetts. This ad is not a big surprise, but the line that Mr. Rove takes could well backfire.

The ad states, “we need jobs, not radical theories and protests,” so we can break the argument down into three separate parts.

First, who destroyed more than 8 million jobs in the United States – and plunged us into the deepest and longest lasting recession since the 1930s? Surely this was not Ms. Warren, who was just a law school professor, in the run-up to 2008.

http://www.truth-out.org/wall-street-v-elizabeth-warren/1321282551

More at the link.

[MADem]

1. I griped about this awhile back--it is running in heavy rotation in the MA markets.

Still. Unfortunately.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x5055411

It's pretty vicious. She's not sitting on her hands, though. She went on a couple of local talkers this past weekend and batted that crap back.

The League of Conservation Voters has a fact-based (and pretty amusing) "oil-based" commercial slamming Brown's polluting ties, and a MA Superpac that includes a lot of unions has just come out with a SCATHER of a commercial that will be running starting tomorrow.

[PETRUS]

3. What's your sense of the MA electorate?

I'm thinking that given the national mood, plus Ms. Warren's reputation, general competence, and public speaking ability, the usual bag of dirty tricks might not tip the scales against her.

(I missed your OP on the ad - was away for a few days, but it's the kind of thing I would normally have noticed and rec'ed.)

[MADem]

8. It will not be as easy to get the seat for EW as DU thinks.

This place is an echo chamber sometimes, and there's sometimes a sense that everyone in the blue states have the same mindset. Truth is, MA has a huge independent voter base and they can get pissy sometime. Brown has friends and money. There are a lot of fat bellied assholes who just might get off their asses and waddle to the polls in a drunken display of braggadocio for Brown if things get contentious. That Rove ad has fired 'em up a bit. You know how some of the OWS people are reaching back to the sixties for inspiration? So are these fat bellied assholes--only they are inspired by the Chicago Police Department.

I'm hoping EW can crucify him in debate--IF they can get him behind a podium. She'll probably want lots of meetings, and he'll want one.

This is going to be a SuperPAC battle, though--the money will fly, the media outlets will be happy as hell; someone will be making money off this race.

I think GOTV is key--I'll be honest, I drive a lot of geezers to the polls, and I'm gonna vet 'em this time (I usually take people for whom I do little kindnesses throughout the year, and their friends). The EW voters will be first in line! Yes, I'm a bastard but I don't care--we need EW in the Senate.

[EC]

2. The one I saw (in story on the news) was way

over the top and looked more like a commercial for the "The Monty Pyton Show" or something.

[Marie Marie]

4. This could backfire big time. Her intelligence, passion and grace

will just make Rove and the Republican machine look like the mean spirited bullies that they are. This woman is a class act and Rove and Co don't know how to respond to that.

[Starry Messenger]

5. k&r

I don't have any remaining hopes for our electoral system, but I really hope the lady kicks ass for some reason. Maybe there's a tiny nugget of hope I missed.

[PETRUS]

6. Yeah, I'm pretty jaded at this point.

But she seems like better medicine than we're usually offered. A big victory for her would carry some symbolic weight, if nothing else.

[Starry Messenger]

7. She's the figurehead for the public mood anyway.

It gives the grassroots something to organize around and keep plugging the message that there are big systemic problems that bandaids aren't going to touch. I just hope that people have learned that we need to stay out there doing big public things like Occupy to really break the cycle and flex our power. I sure did. The elected officials just inhale the spores after they've been elected to office.