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sibelian (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 03:23 PM Original message |
America: an improvement over the historical, run-of-the-mill kinds of nations |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. Overall about right for me. |
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sibelian (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. the thing that confuses me about it is what is meant by |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. By improving on them. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. Well for me the metric would be a totality of a bundle of measures |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
2. No |
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sibelian (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 03:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Actually I have no problem with American exceptionalism as long as |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 03:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Yeah. It's very much like having pride in your ethnic background |
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sibelian (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. positive patriotism |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
28. This is why the world has waged war since the dawn of time, and it's not just |
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sibelian (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-12-11 09:03 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. I'm not sure if we disagree |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. But a comparative ranking is NOT exceptionalism. |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
5. Not really, it sounds like the sort of smug chauvinism that breeds anti-Americanism abroad... |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Historically, we were the first post-Renaissance democracy, |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. That would be the Republic of Corsica, actually. 1755. (Look it up.) |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. There's always a pedant in the crowd. |
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sibelian (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. It did seem slightly ironic to me |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
10. "Patriotism is the most foolish of passions, and the passion of fools." Schopenhauer |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Patriotism is the last refuge |
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sibelian (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Well, I hope he was at least a *bit* wrong. |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 06:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
30. In case you decide you like the type, |
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sibelian (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-12-11 09:00 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Actually he's done pretty well for us. |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
15. I don't think so at all. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
17. I am a polite, well mannered, good natured lady. |
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sibelian (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. No. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. You expected a serious response? |
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sibelian (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Yes, I did. |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 04:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Please tell me what the OP said that you found so offensive? nt |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
18. Some people still buy into Exceptionalism. |
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sibelian (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. That's not really the bit that concerns me |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 04:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. There is a slight difference between love for country |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
25. I think many missed the "run of the mill" part |
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sibelian (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Thank you |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
31. Ahistorical and promotes an entirely undeserved American 'exceptionalism' - n/t |
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