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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 01:11 PM
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Is 7 foot Paterno statue too tarnished to stand? Ironic quote base
What becomes of the statue?

That's hardly the most compelling question requiring consideration on the Penn State campus, currently a place of morally scorched earth light-years removed from returning to its nickname of Happy Valley.

In fact, at the moment, it's an extremely awkward question. But it's one that eventually will have to be addressed: What becomes of Joe Paterno's statue?

Read more: Is Paterno statue too tarnished to stand? - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/columns/heyl/s_766673.html#ixzz1dQCEtpR8


One of the accusations being levied against Joe Paterno is that he was more concerned about protecting the reputation of the Penn State football program than he was in doing the right thing for both the victims and the university.

And it is that possibility that makes the quote with his statue outside Beaver Stadium so ironic.

"They ask me what I'd like written about me when I'm gone. I hope they write I made Penn State a better place, not just that I was a good football coach."

Seems like there is little chance of that happening now...

Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-11-09/sports/30376895_1_joe-paterno-football-coach-penn-state-football-program#ixzz1dQCbYIEY

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 01:16 PM
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1. Rip it out, melt it down, donate the proceeds to crisis centers for abused children.
That thing is a lighting rod for perverse vandalism. That upraised finger alone is ripe for obscene mockery.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 01:19 PM
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3. +1 my thoughts exactly
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 01:18 PM
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2. Not to mention the ice cream flavor
yup, he has his own flavor at Penn State's creamery.

http://creamery.psu.edu/products/food/peachy-paterno

Note the irony of this appearing in the right-wing Mellon Scaife rag, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. (The legitimate Pittsburgh paper is the Post-Gazette, http://www.postgazette.com .) Apparently even other righties have thrown JoePa under the bus.
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 01:22 PM
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4. If there was anything that should rise above partisanship
It's getting justice for the victims of this crime. This needs to become a Federal investigation, imho, since many of the abuses took place out of state, too. Anyone that knew about this and covered it up needs to be thrown under the bus, or get on the bus - to jail.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 01:29 PM
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7. Sandusky could well find himself on the wrong end of the Texas justice system
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 01:39 PM
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8. Good
Somebody in PA was protecting him. Hopefully San Antonio won't put up with that crap.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 02:48 PM
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11. Saving face on the back of their own is their forte.
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 01:24 PM
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5. Why did they have a statue of a guy who is still alive and was still coaching there ? n/t
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Philosopher King Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 01:28 PM
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6. If perfection is the standard, they may as well demolish this one too.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 01:40 PM
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9. I'm a long way from perfect, but I can certainly promise that I
have never, nor will I, ever cover up the sexual abuse of kids.
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 01:59 PM
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10. You said it better than me - in fact pretty much ALL statues qualify for destruction
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 03:15 PM
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12. Fuck that; there's a continuum between "perfection" and "accessory to rape." (nt)
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bengalherder Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 05:55 PM
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13. Because it doesn't take a Solon or a Plato to know that
A) Rushmore was finished after the deaths of the above men AND

B) Nothing in the historical record, no matter how revisionist has implicated the subjects of Mt Rushmore with child rape AND

C) Paterno is not a father of our country in any sense of the term. He is a football coach who lobbies for republicans and profited from the sanctification of the game as being 'too big to fail'. The less statues of him around the better.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 06:01 PM
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14. +1000 nt
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Philosopher King Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 06:14 AM
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15. There was a poll here the other day that asked:
Do you believe in the constitutional principle of presumptions of innocence? A full 100% of the responses were yes. Since you obviously missed it, I urge you to become a voice of dissent. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2284690

But rest assured, there are many others who hold your point of view.


Taller Buddha in 1963 and in 2008 after the Taliban's destruction.



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WhaTHellsgoingonhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 06:44 AM
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16. That's such a lame false equivalence, but I hear it all the time...
Presumption of innocence applies to the rule of law.

Where's the courthouse on DU? I don't see one.
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