Sorry Texas---but your last two Governors are dumber than a box of rocks...

[trumad]

Apologies to the Box of Rocks.

Can't wait to see who you vote for next.

[mwb970]

1. Here's the next up and coming republican candidate.

I wonder what its tax plan is.

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[kentauros]

15. You obviously don't know many Texans

:eyes:

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[kentauros]

17. That's up to you to decide,

seeing as how you seem to have a different set of criteria for what constitutes intelligence in Texas versus, oh, I don't know, Iowa perhaps?

Start your data-search with the Texas forum here and see what happens to your opinion of us.

[libinnyandia]

28. Actually I have a hard time with anyone whose source of pride

is first and foremost their state or country of birth. As far as I'm concerned a person should be proud of what he or she or perhaps someone he or she knows had accomplished. The last Texan who became President did not do a very good job and Perry would not either. I have a lot of relatives who live in Texas and I have nothing against Texans per se. It looks like some of them are very sensitive. I would say something about Iowans but, like I say, the state in which a person was born or in which they live is not as important as he or she is.

[kentauros]

29. You seem to be good at making assumptions about people.

Reread what you've written and then take it apart as I'm about to do.

You say you have nothing against Texans per se, yet your initial statement contradicts this:

"I can't understand how any intelligent person could be proud to be a Texan."

Again, you don't seem to know many Texans or you wouldn't make such a statement. People can live here and not be Texans, too. Or they can become Texans even if not born here. It's a state of mind and has more to do with the state as a whole than just our politics.

You're also disregarding that a person's surroundings, their environment, has a big impact on who they are. I dare say that I would not be the man I am today had I been born in California, or Iowa or Hawaii. And really, I probably wouldn't be as sensitive to this as I am now. Why, you may ask? Because on DU, Texas remains the biggest whipping boy and recipient of unadulterated hate than any other region in the world. If you don't believe me, then you haven't been paying close enough attention. We've earned the right to be sensitive with that kind of attitude all around us, your own included.

[libinnyandia]

30. I don't hate Texas or Texans. I am sure the average Texas

politician compares pretty well to my Rep. Steve King, whose represents everything I oppose in politics. And just because you are a Texan doesn't mean you are better than someone who isn't a Texan. Many wars haave been fought because one people thought they were better than another people. THe original OP was about Rick Perry's supposed lack of intelligence. Do you support him because he is a Texan?

[kentauros]

32. Most people that call themselves Texans don't think they are better

than anyone else. Like me, they just love their state. I don't expect you to understand from how you're going on about it, misinterpreting things.

And again, you're assuming that I think all Texans are great, including in their politics. I don't know where you're getting that, other than by assumption and preconceived ideas about us.

Also, while the OP was about Parry's lack of intelligence, you decided it was best to insult ALL Texans by questioning how we could call ourselves intelligent and still be proud to be Texan. We're people, just like everyone else in the world. We just happen to use a label for ourselves that seems to strike a bad chord in you and too many others around here. Get over the assumptions and broadbrushes and you may find just how good our friendship can be.

[SlicerDicer-]

31. I resemble that remark!

Yet I sound nor look nothing like a Texan and I live in Maui :)

[kentauros]

33. My NZ girlfriend wants us to move to Maui

once she moves here, then vacation there (so I can see what it's like in comparison to New Zealand), sell everything we own, and move there, too :P

We'll set up a Little Texas enclave :hi:

[KamaAina]

39. Makawao in Upcountry Maui has a hitching post right in the middle of town

right across from the crystal healing shop. :-)

Rural Hawai'i has a proud paniolo (cowboy) tradition not unlike that of Texas (the Big Island's Parker Ranch is second in size only to the King Ranch, and still has working paniolos!)

[kentauros]

40. That's cool!

Although I don't go to rodeos anymore, I do still like seeing horses around, whether ridden or just out in open county. I'll have to get in touch whenever we decide to visit :D

[KamaAina]

47. Sadly, you'd have to plan a stopover in San Jose

the name "KamaAina" is one of those DU time warp things that'll follow me around until next year's election.

Also note that the Big Island has even more Texas-style rural flair; it is, after all, twice the size of all the others combined. Many authentic Maui types are drifting over there, having been priced out of Maui by celebrities like Oprah.

[kentauros]

48. I don't remember which island she's on,

but have wondered what it would be like being neighbors with Rosanne Barr and her macadamia nut orchard :D

[KamaAina]

50. That's Big Island

alas, she's found a new guy. :(

[KamaAina]

36. You mean like Molly Ivins, Bill Moyers, Jim Hightower, Sheila Jackson-Lee or LBJ?

:eyes:

[libinnyandia]

42. Actually I am a big fan of all them.. I doubt any of them would be

big fans of Perry. I have read many of Molly's and Jim's books. I hope when people think of Texans who made it to the White House, the first one they think of is LBJ.

[KamaAina]

45. Of course they wouldn't be big fans of Perry

Molly went so far as to say "The next time I tell you a Texan should not be president, please pay attention."

But they're still proud to be Texans. Big difference.

[SammyWinstonJack]

41. The same could be said about 'proud to be an American'.

:shrug:

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[av8rdave]

3. I lived in Texas for 24 years...

I am still amazed how they went from a progressive, caring, hardworking, classy governor (Ann Richards) to the %$#@wad that wound up ruining our country.

And their current governor is even dumber than the aforementioned %$#@wad.

Sad and scary.

[Uben]

4. As a 56 yr old born and raised Texan.......

.....you are spot on! In fact, I would vote for a box of rocks before voting for either of them. A box of rocks could beat either of them in a debate. It's like the Texas GOP tries to find the most ignorant pieces of shit they can for gubernatorial candidates....and they all vote for him. You can tell a Texas republican that eating shit will lower their taxes and there would be flash mobs at every outhouse in Texas! I shit you not! (okay, bad attempt at a pun)

[Skidmore]

7. Rs always look for people who can be controlled.

When a person is ignorant of the facts they are less likely to admit that they don't know and follow along with the program.

[Lasher]

5. Apparently a majority of voting Texans think stupidity is a virtue.

Not all Texans think that way though. Some are even smart enough to join us here at DU.

:hi:

[Major Nikon]

46. That's pretty much a common trait for most of the GOP

You have to understand that the GOP derives most of its constituency from rural areas in the south who are still afraid that carpetbaggers are going to move in again and take advantage of them. That's why intelligence and education are shunned while stupidity and ignorance are considered virtues. So what you wind up with is someone stupid like Perry or Bush as someone smarter slips their hand up their back.

[seabeyond]

6. no worse than a not so dumb scott walker creating all kinds of mess. they are repugs. nt

[easttexaslefty]

8. Yes they are. And I didn't vote for either one. n/t

[butterfly77]

9. Lol!

:rofl:

[TBF]

10. I've been in TX less than 10 years, but saw enough to donate to and vote for Bill White-

he would've been a great governor. I lived in the city of Houston while he was mayor and he really was a fantastic well liked man.

[booley]

11. thank you Texas

for making my state of Misery.. I mean Missouri look sane by comparison.

Yes I know, Texas bashing. but all my friends who lived there have moved and seriously, what is up with those governors? They did throw out their last decent governor and seem to be determined to be show the world how not to run a government ever since.

[w8liftinglady]

12. No kidding.

I worked on Bill White's campaign three weeks after brain surgery because I so desperately wanted Perry out of office.
white would have made a great governor.
I guess Texans aren't ready for that.

[mopinko]

14. and the last good one went down in a kkkarl whispering campaign

rip ann richards, a woman who was a true texan. these oil idiots are an unnatural phenomenon.

[LynneSin]

18. I think that gal from Houston should run for Governor - Annise Parker

I think that lady is one class act, perhaps a new generation of Anne Richards for Texas.

She would do wonders for the state of Texas's reputation if she was elected Governor.

[Phoonzang]

19. She's openly gay and outside of the blue

enclaves of the cities, she wouldn't do well. I mean...she could try but...

[UTUSN]

20. Sorry but what does it say about TX Democratic party that can't find ONE winner?!1

This despite the near majority of minorities -- who, apparently, in their wisdom DON'T VOTE!1

And it didn't help to have a drunk with power, traitorous Bob BULLOCK running the party in its heyday until he turned everything over to Shrub.


Now. I really don't see how anybody could flame this.

[MilesColtrane]

21. It says that we're massively outnumbered by robotic GOP voters and massive amounts of...

corporate money.

It doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the Democratic candidates.

Jesus Christ could run for state office and be defeated if he had a D next to his name.

As far as minorities who vote against their interests (or more precisely don't vote at all), why do you think Texas Republicans do everything they can to take money away from education?

[Johonny]

26. I agree, I think it says more about 1 party systems

the Republican party has smeared and redistricted the Democratic party into a minority. Having done that they show the problem with 1 party rule. Sure sometimes the 1 party puts up a great leader, a lot of times not so much. Texas has had, and still has good politicians and perhaps when enough robo rethugs wake up or simply the population changes the state will once again at least experience real races for office.

[kentauros]

22. Not flame it,

but I will point out that the national Democrats are constantly turning their backs on us, refusing to support or try to help us fight the repubs. Such as their recent decision to drop us from some list of states to support next year.

Like so many DUers, the national Dems seem to forget that we're all in this together.

[UTUSN]

23. Well, the nat'l Dem party chose to support Abu Gharib general SANCHEZ

Now *that* was some kind of a non-starter.

[WolverineDG]

43. Oh they remember us when they need money

We're the national party's ATM, after all.

dg

[LanternWaste]

24. We've had bad governors. We've had good governors...

We've had bad governors. We've had good governors. I imagine that holds true of all states in the union. :shrug:

Maybe there is a state that has experienced progressive perfection in the history of its sitting governors, but I'll bet no-- that indeed they're all a mixed bag... of rocks.

[Laelth]

25. k&r for the truth. n/t

-Laelth

[Avalux]

27. I don't know who you're talking to....I didn't vote for either of them!!

x(

[moondust]

34. That's probably what Big Oil wants. n/t

[ohheckyeah]

35. H.L. Mencken had it rigiht:

As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

[in_cog_ni_to]

37. They like electing people dumber than they are. It makes them feel important.

In their fucked up minds, If the idiot-in-chief and Perry can be Governors/Presidents...so can they, even if they have non-functioning brains. :puke: Rethugs in Texas are so screwed up!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

38. “Life in Lubbock, Texas, taught me two things:

“Life in Lubbock, Texas, taught me two things: One is that God loves you and you’re going to burn in hell. The other is that sex is the most awful, filthy thing on earth and you should save it for someone you love.” - Butch Hancock

[Major Nikon]

44. Perry never would debate Bill White

Bill White is a very smart guy and would have crushed Perry in a debate. So Perry refused to debate and the rubes voted for him anyway.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

49. You've no right to say that! How dare you broadbrush like that!

It's painfully wrong to so disrespect rocks in such a fashion! I assure you, and I AM in a position to know, a box of rocks is much smarter! ;)

[Jazzgirl]

51. Don't put that crap on us DU Texans!

We didn't vote for either one either time! At least I know I didn't. We tried. The teabaggers and right winters have a pretty good hold but I am talking to more people who are "awake" now than ever before.

[Danascot]

52. Perry is like

Reagan & Bush rolled into one.

[ScreamingMeemie]

53. Houston has a mayor that is wayyyyyy awesomer than yours.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it. :hi: